April 17, 20224 yr PMDG have a lot of stuff on their plates with updates and fixes. I honestly think it'll get to a point where they'll end up with such a backlog production will come to a grinding halt. Running i5-9600K @ 4.8ghz - 32GB DDR4 3200mhz - GTX 3070.
April 17, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: There are still broken things in the DC6, which PMDG has known about for months, and frankly I doubt if they will ever be fixed. They are too busy working on the next project. What’s broken? Intel I7 12700KF / 32 GB Ram-3600mhz / Windows 11 - 64 bit / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060TI / 32" Acer Monitor, Honeycomb alpha/bravo, CH rudder pedals, Tobii 5, Buttkicker, Logitech radio panel.
April 17, 20224 yr Just now, flyinpilot212121 said: What’s broken? I am not going to list all that, if you are really interested, read their forum. https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/pmdg-dc-6-cloudmaster-forum
April 17, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: This surely made them cautious regarding the release date... but they could have done the stream on SU8, couldn't they? Since SU9 will be the de facto version of MSFS by the time the 737 releases, (the official release of SU9 is less than 10 days away), I assume all current test builds of the 737 are being done for SU9. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
April 17, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, Amon1973 said: If PMDG waited until the sim was potentially more stable, we could be waiting for months/years because the Sim Updates are going to continue for a while yet. Personally I think the delay is only because SU9 is around the corner (9 days) it would be a bit foolish to release such a complex aircraft at this time (I think the same applies for all the complex airliners about to release). It's better to wait for the release of SU9 and see how things are with the sim and complex aircraft, then fix any issues and then release the 737. Then wait and see how things are with the beta of SU10 and then wait to release until SU10 comes out to see how the 737 does in the final SU10 and then fix any issues and then wait and see how things are wirh the beta of SU11 and then wait to release the 737 until SU11 drops just so they can see how the 737 does in that update and then wait for SU12…. At some point, a company is going to have to release their product knowing it can get screwed with down the line when asobo drops a new sim update. not trying to sound harsh and your logic is sound. I just cant imagine how a company like PMDG doesn’t have some type of mitigation strategy in place for the SUs when its common knowledge now that they can really screw things up at the drop of a hat. Waiting for a “stable” release is futile when the next SU could completely wipe out that stability. FAA: ATP-ME, 737 CA, enough time in the 757/767 to be dangerous 🤠 Matt Kubanda, 7950X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 5090@4k, MSFS 2024
April 17, 20224 yr 35 minutes ago, anden145 said: Thank you, Jim. Sounds reasonable. Secondly: No one has ever said, that anything is being "delayed" (it's hard to delay something, which haven't gotten a release-date). Read the original post. They evaluating whether or not, they should move the release till after SU9. Evaluating - hence, not decided. They have put out numerous target dates dating all the ways back to 4Q 2020. Even Robert himself has heavily alluded to it being delayed because of the inability to debug the software. Its a bit naive to suggest that it isn’t delayed because there hasn’t been a specific date set. FAA: ATP-ME, 737 CA, enough time in the 757/767 to be dangerous 🤠 Matt Kubanda, 7950X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 5090@4k, MSFS 2024
April 17, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, ahsmatt7 said: Then wait and see how things are with the beta of SU10 and then wait to release until SU10 comes out to see how the 737 does in the final SU10 and then fix any issues and then wait and see how things are wirh the beta of SU11 and then wait to release the 737 until SU11 drops just so they can see how the 737 does in that update and then wait for SU12…. At some point, a company is going to have to release their product knowing it can get screwed with down the line when asobo drops a new sim update. not trying to sound harsh and your logic is sound. I just cant imagine how a company like PMDG doesn’t have some type of mitigation strategy in place for the SUs when its common knowledge now that they can really screw things up at the drop of a hat. Waiting for a “stable” release is futile when the next SU could completely wipe out that stability. I think what they need to do is to drop all future projects momentarily , when they discover something that is broken by an SU , and get everyone on the project to fix those broken issues ASAP. That apparently is not what is happening now.
April 17, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said: Then wait and see how things are with the beta of SU10 and then wait to release until SU10 comes out to see how the 737 does in the final SU10 and then fix any issues and then wait and see how things are wirh the beta of SU11 and then wait to release the 737 until SU11 drops just so they can see how the 737 does in that update and then wait for SU12…. At some point, a company is going to have to release their product knowing it can get screwed with down the line when asobo drops a new sim update. not trying to sound harsh and your logic is sound. I just cant imagine how a company like PMDG doesn’t have some type of mitigation strategy in place for the SUs when its common knowledge now that they can really screw things up at the drop of a hat. Waiting for a “stable” release is futile when the next SU could completely wipe out that stability. I would think PMDG intends to release the 737 before SU10, because that is not scheduled until July. SU9 will be the default version of MSFS for everyone by the end of April, so the 737 will probably not release before that. There would have been no mitigation for the particular bug that existed in the first iteration of SU9 beta. It had to be fixed by Asobo before any public demos of the 737 could have been made with a SU9/SDK 18 compiled aircraft, because the bug would have prevented the autopilot from working at all. That would have been true for for any aircraft written in WASM no matter who the developer might be. The latest beta version of SU9 appears to be stable. It may not be updated again before it becomes official - or maybe it will, who knows? Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
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April 17, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, JRBarrett said: I would think PMDG intends to release the 737 before SU10, because that is not scheduled until July. SU9 will be the default version of MSFS for everyone by the end of April, so the 737 will probably not release before that. There would have been no mitigation for the particular bug that existed in the first iteration of SU9 beta. It had to be fixed by Asobo before any public demos of the 737 could have been made with a SU9/SDK 18 compiled aircraft, because the bug would have prevented the autopilot from working at all. That would have been true for for any aircraft written in WASM no matter who the developer might be. The latest beta version of SU9 appears to be stable. It may not be updated again before it becomes official - or maybe it will, who knows? I am talking more about a mitigation strategy for the fact that asobo has shown that they are very inconsistent. Not for a specific game breaking issue because like you said, one just cant plan for that. Im picking up what you’re laying down, don’t get me wrong. Im thinking out loud. Its perplexing to me is all. FAA: ATP-ME, 737 CA, enough time in the 757/767 to be dangerous 🤠 Matt Kubanda, 7950X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 5090@4k, MSFS 2024
April 17, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, rocketlaunch said: The day this releases will be a new era for msfs. Only been waiting two years! I waited 4 years in FSX
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