Ok just purchased will try it...

ok testing noticed only departing AI traffic with AIG @ EBBR payware and version 1.1.85

Question when ATC "cleared for ABCDF1 approach, am I cleared to also decent via the approach? Also on landing last night I received below. I received no taxi after I turned off...I switched to the freq told.

 

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17 minutes ago, cchiozza said:

Question when ATC "cleared for ABCDF1 approach, am I cleared to also decent via the approach? Also on landing last night I received below. I received no taxi after I turned off...I switched to the freq told.

 

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Hello,
What version did you use?
Can you please open a ticket from application regarding that?
Thank you

Sure, I dont have the version here but will when I get home. Just downloaded yesterday.

2 hours ago, cchiozza said:

Question when ATC "cleared for ABCDF1 approach, am I cleared to also decent via the approach? Also on landing last night I received below. I received no taxi after I turned off...I switched to the freq told.

 

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Don't know about this program (dont have it) but in the real world in the US and other areas operated under FAA regulations:

"Maintain the last altitude assigned by ATC until the aircraft is established on a published segment of a transition route, or approach procedure segment, or other published route, for which a lower altitude is published on the chart. If already on an established route, or approach or arrival segment, you may descend to whatever minimum altitude is listed for that route or segment."

See section 5-4-6 of this LINK

In other words, once on the approach as per the publication (usually the FAF), you are to follow the lateral and vertical requirement (unless directed otherwise)

3 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Don't know about this program (dont have it) but in the real world in the US and other areas operated under FAA regulations:

"Maintain the last altitude assigned by ATC until the aircraft is established on a published segment of a transition route, or approach procedure segment, or other published route, for which a lower altitude is published on the chart. If already on an established route, or approach or arrival segment, you may descend to whatever minimum altitude is listed for that route or segment."

See section 5-4-6 of this LINK

In other words, once on the approach as per the publication (usually the FAF), you are to follow the lateral and vertical requirement (unless directed otherwise)

Thanks for the info!

Can anyone chime in here: https://www.simforums.com/forums/stars-and-realism_topic64958.html

I am trying to make it clear that FSHud doesn't keep constraints but apparently I am not succeeding in getting the problem clear. Maybe someone else can? Imho it would be nice (and mandatory...) if FSHud would keep constraints. Or am I really talking in riddles here...?

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by tup61

19 minutes ago, tup61 said:

Can anyone chime in here: https://www.simforums.com/forums/stars-and-realism_topic64958.html

I am trying to make it clear that FSHud doesn't keep constraints but apparently I am not succeeding in getting the problem clear. Maybe someone else can? Imho it would be nice (and mandatory...) if FSHud would keep constraints. Or am I really talking in riddles here...?

I've been following the thread and it must be frustrating. In the default ATC, if an approach says that you need to be at 3000 feet by ABCDE, you are told to get to that altitude. It appears that they are saying that real ATC does not do that?

14 minutes ago, ricka47 said:

I've been following the thread and it must be frustrating. In the default ATC, if an approach says that you need to be at 3000 feet by ABCDE, you are told to get to that altitude. It appears that they are saying that real ATC does not do that?

Thanks for the support, ricka47! ;)

4 hours ago, tup61 said:

Can anyone chime in here: https://www.simforums.com/forums/stars-and-realism_topic64958.html

I am trying to make it clear that FSHud doesn't keep constraints but apparently I am not succeeding in getting the problem clear. Maybe someone else can? Imho it would be nice (and mandatory...) if FSHud would keep constraints. Or am I really talking in riddles here...?

Will have a look also testing FSHUD

I'm so tired of having to have 5 different programs open to do what MSFS should have done from the day it was realesed.  That was one of the things I was excited about during those intro videos.  Everything just works and you don't need a bunch of little band aid programs to improve everything. Well that turned out to not be the case.

Asobo needs to make ATC and AI a top priority.  We have been beta testing MSFS for 2 years now.  

Not interested in this addon.

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by aniiran

First test flight have to say I like it 🙂

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by awf

I refunded it (thanks to Flight1 for that possibility!!!)

 

Will keep an eye on it, but currently I wouldn't call it more then an Alpha.

The first few flight have been promising, I like the voices, but the more I used it, the more I've seen the shortcomings:

- AI movement is really ugly
- I should have setup altitudes manually after simbrief import. Got climb steps from ATC in 2000 ft steps
- currently no really vectoring
- finally I lost contact to ATC during flight. Program was not crashed, simply gave no instructions any more.

 

So, maybe at a later stage when it reached beta or better

 

5 hours ago, guenseli said:

- AI movement is really ugly

- I should have setup altitudes manually after simbrief import. Got climb steps from ATC in 2000 ft steps
- currently no really vectoring
- finally I lost contact to ATC during flight. Program was not crashed, simply gave no instructions any more.

So, maybe at a later stage when it reached beta or better

I have to agree it's still some sort of beta and there are a few problems (I don't care about) of which I wonder if they will be able to solve them... Having said that: the few things FSHud does do well are enough for me to justify the purchase. I have to add though that these advantages are in comparison to default ATC. I look at FSHud as in improvement of default ATC so I might be more easily pleased than others. 😉

- no more useless switching between controllers all the time

- more realistic terminology

- FSHud can use hPa and isn't limited to inHg

- FSHud knows about transition levels and doesn't use FL180 all over the world

Those last two are worth it for me already. 😉