On 5/18/2022 at 3:59 PM, Bobsk8 said:

NO , but they don't fly like a balsa wood glider like many default aircraft do. 

So, why do the default planes fly like a balsa wood gliders?

I mean by now one would think that the guys at Asobo would have been glancing this forum and been reading all our posts about this issue and realise that many of us are deeply affected by this baked in turbulence and that we would love to have an option to control the turbulence...but so far there has been no reaction from their part...which makes me conclude that its all falling on deaf ears.

Well...thank you very much Asobo for completely ruining our vfr experience by implementing this totally unnecessary feature.

Way to go!...

 

 

 

 

I can only imagine with the next update which other random compulsory feature they will add...God help us all!...

1 hour ago, Captain747 said:

I mean by now one would think that the guys at Asobo would have been glancing this forum and been reading all our posts about this issue and realise that many of us are deeply affected by this baked in turbulence 

 

 

 

 

I can only imagine with the next update which other random compulsory feature they will add...God help us all!...

Correct Cap....MANY.....only a small percentage of people with this SIM visit these boards. I have also experimented with outside air temperature in the weather section. Reducing the outside temp down to 0 helped me out a bit. 

I would love to see a video posted showing this turbulence problem.  

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I would love to see a video posted showing this turbulence problem.  

I know, so strange! Not that I don't believe those who are having this "issue" but I just flew all around the Central Florida area tonight with Thunderstorms all around (okay well MSFS rendition of Thunderstorms which is rain shafts from clouds that are about 3,000 height from top to bottom and no lightning or convincing looking "storms") and the whole flight was smooth as silk LOL

So I'm having a completely opposite experience?

Edited May 21, 20224 yr by KERNEL32

8 minutes ago, KERNEL32 said:

I know, so strange! Not that I don't believe those who are having this "issue" but I just flew all around the Central Florida area tonight with Thunderstorms all around (okay well MSFS rendition of Thunderstorms which is rain shafts from clouds that are about 3,000 height from top to bottom and no lightning or convincing looking "storms") and the whole flight was smooth as silk LOL

So I'm having a completely opposite experience?

What plane did you fly with?

I'm using the stock 172 and if I fly central florida at noon, 2500ft, with flew clouds, no wind, even the 2kt ground layer deleted, its a bumpy mess. Plus, I'm using the autopilot GPS mode to hold course and altimeter hold as well. Hands off the yoke once auto is engaged. 4 hundred ft per minute to climb. Hope this helps.

Edited May 21, 20224 yr by Simmer2308
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4 minutes ago, Simmer2308 said:

What plane did you fly with?

I'm using the stock 172 and if I fly central florida at noon, 2500ft, with flew clouds, no wind, even the 2kt ground layer deleted, its a bumpy mess. Plus, I'm using the autopilot GPS mode to hold course and altimeter hold as well. Hands off the yoke once auto is engaged. 4 hundred ft per minute to climb. Hope this helps.

172 G1000, also Milviz C310 and Fenix. All smooth from ground level up to 38k. Very odd.

2 minutes ago, Simmer2308 said:

What plane did you fly with?

I'm using the stock 172 and if I fly central florida at noon, 2500ft, with flew clouds, no wind, even the 2kt ground layer deleted, its a bumpy mess. Hope this helps.

Without a video, its hard to know what a 'bumpy mess' looks like.  So many are reporting this excess turbulence but nobody has posted a video to show it.  

2 minutes ago, KERNEL32 said:

172 G1000, also Milviz C310 and Fenix. All smooth from ground level up to 38k. Very odd.

One thing I need to add is that it is "Live" weather, I never use manual created weather... ever. I start the sim in clear sky setting then change it to Live.

The fact that people are complaining must mean they have a problem with it.

But I dont recognize my flying experience in what they state, I see turbulence but by no means extreme.

I wonder if they are flying in VR or with a regular screen (as I am)

Maybe someone can post a video, I looked for one but cant find one.

 

As pretty much every aspect of this sim, it's still too soon to understand what's going on...

The flight dynamics are a WIP, so is the weather... From SU to SU we get additional features, fine tuning and... bugs... inconsistencies...

A couple days ago I made a full circuit in very active thunderstorm weather. It was a lot smoother than I could expect, and indeed contrasts a LOT with the bumpy rides due to rising air currents that can be experienced specially during daytime over areas of scenery with good albedo, and in sunny days.

Then there's that quirk which sometimes affects the ILSs by giving bellow GS when the instruments and the PAPIs say it's all ok... This might be due to their algorithm for the effects of temperature in geopotential height ( ? ) don't really know, but they said they "fixed" it I believe since SU8 ( ? ) and it was since then that these effects popped up...

It's a very dynamic platform... 

 

Edited May 21, 20224 yr by jcomm

On 5/17/2022 at 6:23 PM, robert young said:

As you know I respect your views on almost everything sim related. However I am saying (perhaps until I'm blue in the face) that turbulence appears to be switched on with absolutely no regard to totally benign conditions. This is clearly therefore nothing to do with impressive development of sophisticated air mass modelling. Someone at Asobo has flicked a switch. While that switch might have some subtlety, it is still a switch. That's a million miles from detailed weather modelling which is an extremely complex subject way beyond Asobo's current capability.

You may repeat this statement about "baked in turbulence" until you are blue in the face, but according to many replies not everyone is having the same experience. I don't see baked in turbulence, in fact I hardly experience turbulence where I have been flying lately (Peru, Papua New Guinea and North Africa).

If someone is willing to upload a video perhaps the rest of us not experiencing the same issues will understand your plight.

The only time I experience turbulence in msfs is because of land features. Period, I have never had them unless there is a mountain, ridge, valley, I was flying over. I never get them flying through clouds, or near storms. This needs fixed. 

 

Anthony

11 hours ago, Anthony25368 said:

The only time I experience turbulence in msfs is because of land features. Period, I have never had them unless there is a mountain, ridge, valley, I was flying over. I never get them flying through clouds, or near storms. This needs fixed.

Indeed! People go head over heels about Fenix, but (no) turbulence in the clouds doesn't bother anyone. Except Anthony, maybe a few others and me. Everyone who has flown in real life through clouds or in/near storms (as pilot and even as passenger), knows there are turbulences.

1 hour ago, flying_carpet said:

Indeed! People go head over heels about Fenix, but (no) turbulence in the clouds doesn't bother anyone. Except Anthony, maybe a few others and me. Everyone who has flown in real life through clouds or in/near storms (as pilot and even as passenger), knows there are turbulences.

Yes this is a big problem with the sim right now.  And clear air turbulence caused by the jetstream doesnt seem to be happening.