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FENIX A320... growing on me ...

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30 minutes ago, jcomm said:

commemorate the holiday here in Porta 🙂 - Portugal day today

You mean Porto? Love that city with its wine 🤩

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28 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

You mean Porto? Love that city with its wine 🤩

I meant Portugal, sometimes referred to by some friends of mine as "Porta"...

But I agree, although being from the southern part of Continental Portugal, that PORTO is one of the most beautiful towns in our beloved country.

 

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2 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Kind of strange coming from him as he was one of the alpha/beta testers from the beginning  Thought he would of caught this a while ago.

He's raised it before, as have others. It's worth remembering a couple of things here, though.

1) We were very aware of this going in and made it clear before the aircraft went on sale that we acknowledge this engine limitation - this is in part thanks to the observations by said alpha/beta team. 

2) Leading on from point 1, if the investigation/fixing process is exhausted using the conventional methods, as we did during the alpha/beta process - you need to start digging out the "creative" solutions. 

Which leads us to the external engine model. The thing with something like this, however, is there's a lead time - and a significant one. So not something we can turn around in a week or two. The math/physics is painful. The integration is in untested waters, and the SDK won't help you. Additionally, with "creative" solutions, you tend to want to test them properly - because when these things break, it can be spectacular. So a creative, reliable solution, with little to no SDK support, multiplying the challenge straight off the bat. As if writing an external engine model weren't enough of a challenge by itself 😅

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2 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Kind of strange coming from him as he was one of the alpha/beta testers from the beginning  Thought he would of caught this a while ago.

Yes, true. But Fenix admitted frankly that the performance figures are not 100% correct. Why they could not fix that before the release, I don't know exactly. But I have very strong hopes that they do in due time. It is a bit strange to fly an almost perfect simulation, but not exactly on the real-life numbers.

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It’s still in the early stages post-release and we’ve already had two updates. I’m sure more and more will improve as time goes on.

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6 minutes ago, flyingpauls said:

Yes, true. But Fenix admitted frankly that the performance figures are not 100% correct. Why they could not fix that before the release, I don't know exactly. But I have very strong hopes that they do in due time. It is a bit strange to fly an almost perfect simulation, but not exactly on the real-life numbers.

So you are a real perfectionist when it comes to flying airliners. May I ask what your background is in aviation? 

 

 

 

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Fenix made me recall those good old days of the Phoenix Airbus series - back in fs2002 times... ...

The Phoenix Airbuses were my first jump into an interesting Airbus simulation in a desktop PC, long after the 1993 A320 Sim by Thalion 🙂

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9 minutes ago, flyingpauls said:

Yes, true. But Fenix admitted frankly that the performance figures are not 100% correct. Why they could not fix that before the release, I don't know exactly. But I have very strong hopes that they do in due time. It is a bit strange to fly an almost perfect simulation, but not exactly on the real-life numbers.

It basically came down to a case of significant diminishing returns. We got it as good as we could reasonably do so with the native engine physics in MSFS, and to go further or get it "just so" needed us to start ripping bits out of the sim to do the aforementioned external engine model. So, I made a call to cease work on the native engine physics and allocate these resources into developing the external engine model instead. 

Just part of working with a new sim platform, really. 

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22 hours ago, bendead said:

One thing I would love but it will never happen because it's so rare, is a HUD. 

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One of My favorite parts about flying the 737. Wish I could have one in the A320.

2 hours ago, Aamir said:

It basically came down to a case of significant diminishing returns. We got it as good as we could reasonably do so with the native engine physics in MSFS, and to go further or get it "just so" needed us to start ripping bits out of the sim to do the aforementioned external engine model. So, I made a call to cease work on the native engine physics and allocate these resources into developing the external engine model instead. 

Just part of working with a new sim platform, really. 

Just out of curiosity, I know ASOBO has been "eager" to revamp the old FSX turbine physics. Has there been any talk that ASOBO might spare you the dev costs, by updating the native physics? I mean it would really suck to spend money to build an external engine, and then ASOBO comes out with realistic adverse yaw and turbine physics the day after.

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9 hours ago, Aamir said:

It basically came down to a case of significant diminishing returns. We got it as good as we could reasonably do so with the native engine physics in MSFS, and to go further or get it "just so" needed us to start ripping bits out of the sim to do the aforementioned external engine model. So, I made a call to cease work on the native engine physics and allocate these resources into developing the external engine model instead. 

That's a fair and open statement, which I appreciate a lot. Thanks for that. My wish for you is that you get enough revenue to support further development and keep the plane up to date with the ever-changing MSFS platform.

Actually, I find the plane quite enjoyable, and I am not a perfectionist at all. I only noticed the problems when I found the plane descending about 50% faster than it should with idle engines which destroyed my mental plan.

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I just wish my iPad mini would work for the efb. However it cuts off the bottom. 

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2 hours ago, micstatic said:

I just wish my iPad mini would work for the efb. However it cuts off the bottom. 

Turn it 90 degrees maybe?

33 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Turn it 90 degrees maybe?

think I tried that

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On yet another flight this morning in the A 320.  I have about 25 trouble free flights with good FPS, this is the best Payware aircraft I have ever flown and I have been simming since the late 80's. 😀

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