What is happening with FlyByWire?

[hvw 415]

The last few weeks only very few updates to FBW's A320Neo were to be seen. Not all that long ago Andreas Guether, one of the developers of the FlyByWire team, announced his withdrawal from the program. As of that time the mentioned "slow down" in updates occurred. 

Was it coincidence that all this happened a little while after Fenix released their A320? Or lost the FBW team interest in further development at the same speed as they used to do when Andreas left? 

I don't hope that FBW will throw the towel and withdraw entirely from the project. Or does this lull in development flow mean that great things are awaiting us in the, near, future?  

Just wondering.

[omarsmak30 4,068]

It is active as usual from what I see in discord 

[Watsi 2,574]

I would say: we 'benifited' from corona. Now, as things are normalizing with work, school and university, people simply have less spare time and things are slowing down a bit. Besides Andreas, we had some other losses. So yes, this also effects the developement / speed.

But for sure I can say, we didn't lose interest. We are still at work on further developing the A32NX and the A380.

[hvw 415]

2 minutes ago, Watsi said:

But for sure I can say, we didn't lose interest. We are still at work on further developing the A32NX and the A380.

Good to hear so. Thanks for this information, Watsi.

[hvw 415]

7 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

It is active as usual from what I see in discord 

I only visit Discord once in a blue moon. It is not my cup of tea, so to speak. Don't shoot me for that, please 🙂 

[MikeyOnTheFlightDeck 209]

So pleased the a380 project remains intact.  Very few rivals to this one from what I can tell. 

[Dillon 2,198]

I know I'm late but what happened with FBW and Asobo?😳  The mod was originally in the store and got taken down.  I ask because after finding I couldn't load it up when I got around to trying it out it took help from here to figure out I still had the store version installed which was causing a conflict.  Was there a rift between FBW and Asobo?  

One thing that seemed to frustrate a few third party developers with Asobo was with each new Sim Update release mods and add-ons were broken.  With monthly updates at the time this as a support nightmare.  That has since slowed down.  The FBW mod to the default A320 is amazing and I can see they pioneered processes that are present in the Fenix A320.

[HiFlyer 9,374]

4 minutes ago, Dillon said:

I know I'm late but what happened with FBW and Asobo?😳  The mod was originally in the store and got taken down.  I ask because after finding I couldn't load it up when I got around to trying it out it took help from here to figure out I still had the store version installed which was causing a conflict.  Was there a rift between FBW and Asobo?  

One thing that seemed to frustrate a few third party developers with Asobo was with each new Sim Update release mods and add-ons were broken.  With monthly updates at the time this as a support nightmare.  That has since slowed down.  The FBW mod to the default A320 is amazing and I can see they pioneered processes that are present in the Fenix A320.

https://fselite.net/content/flybywire-simulations-removes-a32nx-from-msfs-marketplace/

[Dillon 2,198]

4 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

https://fselite.net/content/flybywire-simulations-removes-a32nx-from-msfs-marketplace/

I remember this but this was awhile ago.  We've had a few updates since then and many of the issues have since been resolved including the FBW A320 which is running without issue in the current build of FS.

[gdjak 176]

41 minutes ago, Dillon said:

I remember this but this was awhile ago.  We've had a few updates since then and many of the issues have since been resolved including the FBW A320 which is running without issue in the current build of FS.

That fselite explanation is kinda bad, it was a bit more complicated than that. There's a decent writeup on the fbw site: FlyByWire, MSFS Marketplace and Xbox

especially:

Quote

We would like to make clear that this decision is not a result of Sim Update 5, but rather other ongoing concerns that were being discussed by the team in the weeks prior. Chiefly, on July 4th, we changed the A32NX’s license from MIT back to GPL-3.0, following the overwhelming wishes of our development team and their commitment to free, open source software. However, due to legal concerns regarding copyleft licenses, Microsoft does not permit GPL-licensed projects to be listed in the marketplace. As a result we created a separate fork of the A32NX (dubbed the “marketplace edition”) with the MIT license necessary for marketplace compatibility.

It became clear with recent updates, however, that maintaining this separate version as well as working around the marketplace’s release schedule would be a challenge. As new features were being introduced to the mainline version of the A32NX, many developers wished their code only to remain in that version, under the GPL license. This had the effect of making any code that built upon it increasingly difficult to port to the marketplace edition.

 

[Dillon 2,198]

2 hours ago, gdjak said:

That fselite explanation is kinda bad, it was a bit more complicated than that. There's a decent writeup on the fbw site: FlyByWire, MSFS Marketplace and Xbox

especially:

 

Thanks, this is what I was looking for.  Now I understand why FBW pulled back from the marketplace.👍

[NG_Aviator 39]

Any plans to make an EIS 1/CRT mod for the A320?  I would love that so much.

[Elvensmith 165]

The marketplace version was convenient though for those of us who wanted seamless updates, rather than having to reacquire manually every time an Asobo code change breaks something (itself a PITA). Was discussing this in another thread earlier and the problem is, because it is an "owned" item for those of us who acquired the Marketplace version it's still listed there as available content even though it doesn't work and causes the sim to hang if you try and use it. Really, unlike withdrawn (for whatever reason) commercial DLC which is maintained for those who purchased it, FBW should just tell Asobo/MS to take it down for all users as if it doesn't work there's no point and in the worst case leads the unwary user into a situation where they have to Ctrl-Alt-Del out of MSFS, with the potential issues that could bring of data left on the HD etc.

[Baptista 52]

I believe there has never been a team of developers with such passion for a project before. Because it is free, their integration with the end consumer (us) is highly rewarding. Many paid adds fall short of the attention they give us. I've never been without support, whether from FlyByWire or fellow members of this forum I participate. Health and good flights

[JBDB-MD80 1,487]

2 hours ago, Baptista said:

I believe there has never been a team of developers with such passion for a project before. Because it is free

Zibo 737 in X-Plane, but FBW is just as passionate. Hopefully we see the 380 in the future, they are also helping out on A220 project I believe.