July 24, 20223 yr Randzzo had an update in the PMDG forum about the PMDG 737-600, PMDG 737-800, and the PMDG 737-700: Quote Captains!Once again, Happy Friday and welcome to a weekend update for your PMDG 737 for Microsoft Flight Simulator.The team has been hard at work with continued improvements in all areas of the 737 product line, including the 737-700, 737-600 and 737-800. This is the first time we have had this many products in development testing all at the same time and it certainly does keep everyone on their toes as we begin spooling up to move through a series of releases in very rapid succession during the weeks ahead.PMDG 737-600 for Microsoft Flight Simulator:===================================First up, lets talk about the Babiest of Baby Boeings: The PMDG 737-600!I mentioned last month that we had decided to use the 600 testing period as an iterative test program to bring in our new Lateral Flight Path model. This decision was made knowing that it would cause a slightly longer development period than the originally planned six weeks for the PMDG 737-600, but it has proven to be a good use of development and testing time. We are just about ready to release the 737-600 and it will include the new Lateral Flight Path model, along a significantly updated vertical path model that is finally able to leverage the improved accuracy of the lateral model into it's own computational process. Specifically, bringing in the new LNAV and F/D roll channel model allowed us to unlock some advanced behaviors in the vertical path, with significant improvements to CDA performance and other vertical path computations that really have the 737 behaving like it's real world counterpart.We are chasing down a few last minute annoyances and we hope to wrap up testing early in the week with one or two more conforming builds. If those go well, we anticipate she will be in your hands by this time next week. <<NOTE - STANDARD DISCLAIMER APPLIES: If we hit any hiccups we don't like- we will slide the release out as needed but we'll keep you posted here!>>PMDG 737-700 for Microsoft Flight Simulator:===================================This week we have a pretty nice update for the 737-700. The team has been hard at work continuing to add detail, adapt behaviors and improving the overall depth of simulation for our flagship 737 package. This update includes a broad range of items from texture and graphical improvements to advanced logical improvements such as alternate gear extension. The change list is included here and you can scan through to see the wide range of areas getting attention throughout the 737.Concurrent with the 737-600 update (hopefully next week!) we will also push another update to the 737-700 in order to bring the new Lateral and Vertical flight path changes into the 700 series airplane as well.**One note we want to call out: For those who experience the dreaded "gauge flicker" in the 737: Asobo advised us back in mid-May that they had found the source of that problem deep within the Nano layer of the MSFS platform. They reported it was fixed and would push in the next update. We have been testing in SU10 and can confirm that it is indeed fixed. This will be a welcome relief and will also allow us to turn on the EFIS/MAP display configuration. Expect that we will do this concurrent with the SU10 release.CHANGE LIST: PMDG 737-700 3.00.00290011603: [FMS - Functionality Problems (General)] DTO Incorrect Display (abashkatov)0011434: [External Model - Liveries] Texture Mapping. Element Moves Depending on viewing Angle (jbrown)0011446: [External Model - Liveries] Injestion Warning Decal (jbrown)0011447: [External Model - Liveries] Gaps in Left Side Injestion Waring Line (jbrown)0011483: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Aux Fuel Panel shows pasrt of the Nose Wheel Steering Panel on BBJ (vscimone)0011486: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Space missing between R and WIPER (vscimone)0011487: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] 'NORMAL' missing from overhead panel temp control panel (vscimone)0011488: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] 'ENGINE START' missing from overhead panel (vscimone)0011490: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Floating decal text on fuel control levers (vscimone)0011491: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Engine 2 fire handle floats when pulled (vscimone)0011492: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Glareshield document holder lacks visible bottom (vscimone)0011493: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Lines missing from cabin pressure gauge (vscimone)0011494: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Inside of stab trim cutout guards should be red (vscimone)0011495: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Text on yoke is crooked (vscimone)0011496: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Text remnant to the right of "AILERON" (vscimone)0011497: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] + missing from cargo fire panel (vscimone)0011498: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Dots missing from crew oxygen pressure gauge (vscimone)0011499: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Placard missing from back of jump seat (vscimone)0011501: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Pass oxygen guard should be safety wired (vscimone)0011503: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Rudder trim off flag missing (vscimone)0011505: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] AO spots on ACP panels (vscimone)0011615: [General - Ground Operations] Fuel Truck Dangerous Goods shield wrong number (jbrown)0011166: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Maingear not recognized as extended after manual gear extension (rsrandazzo)0011175: [Main Panel - PFD] White Speed Bug should not be removed on touchdown (abashkatov)0011187: [Sounds - Internal/Cockpit] Add seatbelt sound chime on aircraft power up from cold and dark (abashkatov)0011534: [Systems - Flight Controls] Hyd System B providing inadequate pressure to rudder actuators (rsrandazzo)0011601: [Systems - Hydraulic] EMDP 1 and 2 control switches wired to incorrect busses. (model code xml reversed due to numbering inversion on panel) (rsrandazzo)0011612: [FMS/AFDS - LNAV] LFP v2 : Reduced distance cut-off between WPTs for creating arcs (emvaos)0011613: [Systems - General/Not Sure] Alternate Landing Gear Extension needs modification to take advantage of MSFS independent gear operation (rsrandazzo)0011238: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] FO Window Handle wrong style (vscimone)0011018: [Main Panel - Aural/Visual Warning Systems] GPWS INOP light should be ON with IRS off (abashkatov)0011113: [General - Engines] Engine shutdown - Simvar N1 engine values reach zero far quicker than expected (acholakian)0011608: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] RECIR FAN panel background color differnt than rest of panel (vscimone)0011573: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Errant shadow spots on ACP panels on Overhead (vscimone)0010454: [Main Panel - ND] VOR/ILS ident not being displayed (abashkatov)0010989: [General - Unsure] BBJ, AUX Tank gauge at MIP not showing any Fuel quantity when weights are set to LBS (abashkatov)0011596: [General - Suggested/Missing Features] Removal of not needed files from Data/Dynamics (cbpowell)0011605: [External Model - Geometry] APU Drain mast missing (jbrown)0011600: [Sounds - Internal/Cockpit] airspeed callouts sounds missing (acholakian)0011594: [Apps - LightsNSwitches] no smoking / chime only switch does not move (vscimone)0011604: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] GEN switch click spots should be limited to the switch tips (vscimone)0011599: [External Model - Geometry] Mismatch Vortex Generators (jbrown)0011602: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Aileron trim switches should be offset, not centered, on switch posts (vscimone)0011589: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Standby Artificial Horizon knobs are low resolution (vscimone)0011587: [General - Ground Operations] Stairs at Door 1 misaligned (hvanrensburg)0010959: [Main Panel - ND] Green line on terrain display with water option on (abashkatov)0010732: [Main Panel - ND] Terrain depiction on ND 'ghosts' as you move and turn. (abashkatov)0011309: [Main Panel - ND] Memory Leak when Lower Eicas is set to ND and terrain display is on (abashkatov)0008442: [Systems - Pressurization] Addition of the new style Pressurization panel (vscimone)0011512: [Systems - Electrical] Battery Voltage low. (rsrandazzo)0011548: [FREEZES - All Types] Cockpit Freeze Upon Increasing ND MAP Range to 640, have Terrain Data on and Terrain Sweep to OFF (abashkatov)0011554: [External Model - Geometry] Landing Light Illuminating Inside of Engine Cowling (jbrown)0011557: [FMS/AFDS - LNAV] Routing should be recalculated from PPOS when wings level on a heading to intercept leg (emvaos)0011562: [General - Flight Model] BBJ variant only, nose wheel does not animate when XBOX controller is used for the rudder (jbrown)0011572: [External Model - Liveries] F1 Norm Map Adjustment (jbrown)0011574: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Engine start text is not illuminated (vscimone)0011575: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Aft window pillars collision box needs tweaking. (jbrown)0011577: [External Model - Geometry] Brief orange splash on nose of the aircraft when turning on the strobes (jbrown)0010578: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Overhead Switches need HD texturing (vscimone)0011462: [General - Flight Model] Backcourse APP not working correctly. (emvaos)0011507: [Systems - General/Not Sure] Use last OIL option although enabled not working correctly (emvaos)0011514: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Oxy. Press. needle does not illuminate with overhead backlighting (vscimone)0011518: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Speed Brake Handle Textures are Blurry (vscimone)0011595: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Attendant Switch not animated (vscimone)PMDG 737-800 for Microsoft Flight Simulator:===================================Development work on the 737-800 for MSFS continues apace. This includes the 737-800 passenger variant, the BBJ2, the BDSF and BCF versions of the airplane for a total of 8 models in the package. With the release of the 800, a number of equipment changes have been made to the flight deck to reflect the systems differences between the smaller siblings and the larger pair of airplanes in the fleet type. This work continues and we will turn our beta testers loose very soon to begin showing you the airplane from their own perspectives.The 800 is really the "ultimate" 737 variant from an adoption standpoint- being the most popular variant yet built by a wide margin, we are looking forward to putting her into your fleet in/around Mid August. <<STANDARD DISCLAIMER APPLIES: This timeline, like all timelines is an estimate based upon current progress and remains subject to change.>>One funny anecdote from inside PMDG for you: We have all been looking at the 700 and it's much shorter 600 sibling for so long, that we made Jason go back and re-measure the 800 a dozen or so times because by optical illusion and familiarity- the 800 (or in this case the BBJ2!) looks like a 900 by comparison!PMDG Flight Tablet:================I don't have much to update you with here except to say that work continues. We are primarily focused on working through the operating system and adding in the various features that make the tablet useful. As mentioned previously, simBrief integration is in place and Navigraph charts are currently being worked through. I am not brave enough to guess when this will be made live within the airplane, but I am hoping to begin showing you some previews shortly after the 800 is released- as it has some pretty cool features to add to your simming experience.Post SU10 Updates (Things such as Weather Radar)=========================================Most of the development team is now working in the SU10 beta environment as we want to be certain that nothing breaks for you when the SU10 update is released. We are also beginning to get caught up enough with 600 and 800 development tasks that we can begin to pick at some of the new features Asobo published as having been added with the SU10 beta, such as weather radar. We anticipate beginning to look at the new MSFS weather radar feature before SU10 gets released, but at this juncture I don't have enough knowledge of what that platform/SDK feature includes- so I can't comment on schedule for implementation yet. If an actual radar image is provided and we simply need to lay that into a display, it is a simple thing that we can accommodate quickly- but if we have to build out the signal image simulation for the signal refraction model, then it will take more time.There are a few new features listed in the SU10 beta that we will begin to pick at once the team has some free bandwidth from the primary focus of the development cycle. Our development plate is rather full with two airplanes in testing, but we shall get to this when things calm down. We are eager to see what was really added!That is all we have for you this weekend- enjoy your flying and don't forget to throw some images into the screenshot forum to share your flights with all of us here! Of course, the release dates may "slide" as Randazzo said above. So these are not firm release dates yet. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 24, 20223 yr Good to see some communication again. The -700 list is long, sorry to hear the the EFB seems still far away but for the sake of a weather radar I can live without it for a bit longer Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
July 24, 20223 yr Maybe Randazzo should let some other person in the company have a try on estimating time frames, I'd say there isn't much too lose 🤭 Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
July 24, 20223 yr July is almost over and the -600 has not arrived yet. Don't see how they estimate a release of the -800 next month. Or did they mean August next year? :P
July 24, 20223 yr Author 55 minutes ago, rka said: Maybe Randazzo should let some other person in the company have a try on estimating time frames, I'd say there isn't much too lose 🤭 His estimates are usually off. But if Randazzo is saying the 600 may release as early as next week, I would say it's likely to come out within the next 3 weeks. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 24, 20223 yr Author 44 minutes ago, 737_800 said: July is almost over and the -600 has not arrived yet. Don't see how they estimate a release of the -800 next month. Or did they mean August next year? 😛 Isn't the 800 more or less a skin of the 700, from the perspective of a flight simulator? Of course, there are weight and length differences between the 700 and 800. And PMDG also has to test the fuel performance of the 800, etc. But I would think the hardest part is releasing the 700. All the other variants, they more or less use the same code. I don't see any major roadblock that would stop PMDG from releasing the 800. Maybe they push it back one or two weeks, but I think the 800 should release in August, or at the latest, the first two weeks of September. Edited July 24, 20223 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 24, 20223 yr Don't get me wrong. Excited about the LNAV update. But I can't believe they still don't have an EFB out yet. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
July 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: Isn't the 800 more or less a skin of the 700, from the perspective of a flight simulator? Of course, there are weight and length differences between the 700 and 800. And PMDG also has to test the fuel performance of the 800, etc. But I would think the hardest part is releasing the 700. All the other variants, they more or less use the same code. I don't see any major roadblock that would stop PMDG from releasing the 800. Maybe they push it back one or two weeks, but I think the 800 should release in August, or at the latest, the first two weeks of September. I have missed the part where he writes, that -600 release might be next week. Then, yeah, it might be come true even with a delay of maybe 1-2 weeks.
July 24, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, 737_800 said: I have missed the part where he writes, that -600 release might be next week. Then, yeah, it might be come true even with a delay of maybe 1-2 weeks. Yeah he says so somewhere in there. The only thing I'd read out of that though is that it is very unlikely it will release next week 😄 Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
July 24, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, rka said: Maybe Randazzo should let some other person in the company have a try on estimating time frames, I'd say there isn't much too lose 🤭 Use the same rule of thumb for converting Celsius to Fahrenheit and it apply it to PMDG release date estimates and you’ll be much closer than RSR. In other words, double it and add 30. Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
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July 24, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, micstatic said: Don't get me wrong. Excited about the LNAV update. But I can't believe they still don't have an EFB out yet. After discovering the FBW A320 and now with Fenix on deck I can't use an airliner without an EFB tablet. Seeing the charts is too important for navigation. Until PMDG get's this implemented I've stopped using the 737. I was excited and used it when it was first released but Fenix and FBW showed me the importance of SimBrief in the cockpit and I can't go back. 😶 Edited July 24, 20223 yr by Dillon FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
July 24, 20223 yr 58 minutes ago, Dillon said: After discovering the FBW A320 and now with Fenix on deck I can't use an airliner without an EFB tablet. Seeing the charts is too important for navigation. Until PMDG get's this implemented I've stopped using the 737. I was excited and used it when it was first released but Fenix and FBW showed me the importance of SimBrief in the cockpit and I can't go back. 😶 Since when does Simbrief provide charts?
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