August 4, 20223 yr Are "Toggle Taxi Ribbon" a new command that will come with next SU? System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
August 4, 20223 yr It seems from what I’m reading over the MsFs forums, that the Xbox is super smooth now, to the detriment of the pc, which has stuttering back, that DX12 eliminated on the first beta build.
August 4, 20223 yr So far in this Beta (using VR): First Build = Good move forward generally, performance improved, god awful new (Auto) Eye Exposure though which is a massive step backwards Second Build (including the very small update prior) = Still good performance, nothing touched on the Eye Exposure above Third Build (todays) = Step backwards with performance, still nothing on the the awful Eye Exposure and no other VR regressions fixed alongiside obvious UI bugs in this beta still not fixed. So, for me at least, this Beta is gradually going backwards from a good start. There's still time to sort stuff out, to fix regressions and do *something* with the awful Eye Exposure they've added, but history tells me they practically ignore the forum Votes on anything to do with VR and make it up as they go along. I'm convinced they don't know what they're doing with this tech and they need some help...badly! Edited August 4, 20223 yr by MarcG Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
August 4, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: It seems from what I’m reading over the MsFs forums, that the Xbox is super smooth now, to the detriment of the pc, which has stuttering back, that DX12 eliminated on the first beta build. I am on PC and it is smooth for me and no stutters panning the view in the cockpit. Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
August 4, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: Exactly what I’m reading over the other forums. The memory setting they’ve disabled has caused this apparently. Ahhh it’s always so disappointing. I know. I think there will be some tweaking in the coming months after SU10 releases to sort out the VRAM issues with DX12. Apparently something similar happened in XP11 after they launched Vulkan. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
August 4, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I know. I think there will be some tweaking in the coming months after SU10 releases to sort out the VRAM issues with DX12. Apparently something similar happened in XP11 after they launched Vulkan. Yeah similar, but I have to add Vulkan was like melted butter it was so smooth, and that is true to this day. It was so smooth it actually felt like real flight. I pray that this happens to msfs one day.
August 4, 20223 yr Just installed the update. Yesterday my sim was butter smooth in VR with DX12. Today: total disaster, slideshow stuttering level. And my 3090 fan is suddenly going crazy again, did not notice that for some weeks now. Now restarting in DX11. MS FS 2020/2024 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000mhz | ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 32GB GDDR7 OC EDITION | Varjo Aero | Navigraph | VATSIM | TPR Pedals | Virpil | Honeycomb | Winwing FCU + EFIS | Behringer X Touch Mini | SPAD.next
August 4, 20223 yr Even with my old, 8GB, 1070, I was getting great performance with no graphics artifacts from the DX12 optimizations in SU10 beta. Now, with today's update, I've lost all the improvements to performance. For me at least, this was a total step backward. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 4, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Alvega said: I am on PC and it is smooth for me and no stutters panning the view in the cockpit. The stutters I'm experiencing are certainly not game-breaking. They are not hard stutters but micro-stutters when panning around. It's noticeable because prior to this panning was silky smooth. Also they've somehow messed up HDR (not with the latest update though). A lot of people, me including, don't have proper HDR anymore. For some, the dev mode will show SDR, and return to HDR after going to window mode, resizing it and back. But even then it's not the same HDR as pre-SU10. Peak brightness is considerably reduced, there is a lot less contrast and the image now looks a lot more "flat". 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
August 4, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: The stutters I'm experiencing are certainly not game-breaking. They are not hard stutters but micro-stutters when panning around. It's noticeable because prior to this panning was silky smooth. Also they've somehow messed up HDR (not with the latest update though). A lot of people, me including, don't have proper HDR anymore. For some, the dev mode will show SDR, and return to HDR after going to window mode, resizing it and back. But even then it's not the same HDR as pre-SU10. Peak brightness is considerably reduced, there is a lot less contrast and the image now looks a lot more "flat". Yes, agreed - HDR is not very different from SDR 🤔 CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 4, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, David Mills said: Even with my old, 8GB, 1070, I was getting great performance with no graphics artifacts from the DX12 optimizations in SU10 beta. Now, with today's update, I've lost all the improvements to performance. For me at least, this was a total step backward. That's very unfortunate. They "disabled DX12 memory manager optimization on NVIDIA GPUs due to graphical corruption issues" which many people were experiencing due to VRAM going way past GPUs capacities. It simply wouldn't have been possible to release SU10 in that state, so I guess they had to do something. I'm guessing there will be at least one more update before it goes live. Edited August 4, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
August 4, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: which many people were experiencing due to VRAM going way past GPUs capacities. Could have left it there for us with 3090’s. It worked brilliant. Now I’m just testing it and it’s stutter again on DX12. One step forwards, two back. 👀👀
August 4, 20223 yr They discovered DX12 memory optimization was bugged for Nvidia cards, so they have removed it from this public testing build while someone investigates it on a private dev build internally with the intention of fixing and reinstating it eventually. Leaving it in would mean they can't properly, publicly test the rest of the code, which could be adversely affected by the bugged code they have isolated. This is par for the course. Their aim will be to bring it back, eventually. Don't panic 😉
August 4, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, March Hare said: They discovered DX12 memory optimization was bugged for Nvidia cards, so they have removed it from this public testing build while someone investigates it on a private dev build internally with the intention of fixing and reinstating it eventually. Leaving it in would mean they can't properly, publicly test the rest of the code, which could be adversely affected by the bugged code they have isolated. This is par for the course. Their aim will be to bring it back, eventually. Don't panic 😉 Did they leave the memory optimizations in for AMD cards ? Considering the Xbox stuff is running more smoothly ? AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
August 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Maxis said: Did they leave the memory optimizations in for AMD cards ? Considering the Xbox stuff is running more smoothly ? I would presume so.
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