August 17, 20223 yr Especially with GSX about to hit people are actually saying that while they are sitting at the gate boarding and de-boarding they would rather look at a 2D image of glass opposed to the living world on the other side of the glass? Personally, I love to see whatever I can see from the flight deck. Prefaced by the fact it doesn't impact performance which even at DD Renton with all the animation my FPS never dropped to the point it caused any stutters. That's the key factor for me. Do I need the sub basement modelled, no but do I love to see a real living world when I am at the gate, of course, especially when there is no FPS impact. That's like being offered $20 and $10 at the same time and saying you'd prefer the $10 LOL... Edited August 17, 20223 yr by psolk Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
August 17, 20223 yr I would just like my home airport to have a terminal. Let alone a modelled interior. I9-9900, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3090 FTW
August 17, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said: Pyreegue EGAA Belfast comes close Completely off topic, but does anyone else notice that the colour balance is off in that youtube video? Just looking at the thumbnail image, there is a skew towards green. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
August 17, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Christopher Low said: I will be very interested to see what my rather modest PC is capable of rendering in Microsoft Flight Simulator @ 1080p resolution. Well, there is a way to find out 😉 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
August 17, 20223 yr I think it's amazing what they can do, but once you've took the tour through the airport, it loses it's appeal. I had much rather they model the interior of hangers. I would like to land my flight (GA) and go to my hanger, push a button to open the door and enter in. Shut down and tomorrow start from that position with my next flight. Roy i7-10700 CPU @2.90 GHz, 32 GB Ram, nVadia GTX1660ti, Samsung 1 TB SSD Drive
August 17, 20223 yr 39 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: Well, there is a way to find out 😉 The problem is money. If I decide to dive in and check it out, I may not be able to resist the temptation to start buying lots of shiny new airports.....and, well.......I have never robbed a bank before Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
August 17, 20223 yr Author 3 hours ago, psolk said: That's like being offered $20 and $10 at the same time and saying you'd prefer the $10 LOL... I’ll take the $10 with no strings attached. Thanks! 🙂 But Nothing is free, especially when rendering added detail. Edited August 17, 20223 yr by Virtual-Chris
August 17, 20223 yr Honestly, what's the point in buying an airport addon if you are not going to get this level of detail that includes interiors? The default airport terminals are not so bad if all you want is the basic outside. Either that or use freeware. If I'm going to pay $20 for an airport then I want it to look like the real thing, inside and out. Plus I enjoy the immersion of looking in the terminal and airside. The more details the better. With the next generation of GPUs and CPUs I see little argument about performance. This is 2022, not FSX in 2012.
August 17, 20223 yr Author 3 minutes ago, steve310002 said: Honestly, what's the point in buying an airport addon if you are not going to get this level of detail that includes interiors? The default airport terminals are not so bad if all you want is the basic outside. Either that or use freeware. If I'm going to pay $20 for an airport then I want it to look like the real thing, inside and out. Plus I enjoy the immersion of looking in the terminal and airside. The more details the better. With the next generation of GPUs and CPUs I see little argument about performance. This is 2022, not FSX in 2012. Well there’s a few good reasons as have already been mentioned… - It can impact performance - It can come at the expense of other exterior details that are more relevant - It can increase the price due to the added effort required - Many don’t care It would be ideal if airport scenery came with an option for no or empty interiors, and fully rendered interiors. If it was half price for an airport scenery without interiors I think a lot of people would choose that option.
August 17, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: - It can impact performance Actually, this is not very true unless you are running a very old machine. And if that's the case you would struggle with MSFS in general anywas so probably shouldn't consider addons. And if you are seeing a huge drop, then it is something else causing the problem. - It can come at the expense of other exterior details that are more relevant Not really true either. Do you really think developers are going to make airport exteriors even more detailed if they don't model the interiors? Most of the time, they already are as detailed as can be. And if not, this says more about the developer. Usually if the inside is great, so is the outside. Period. Look at Pyreegue, Drzwiecki Design, Pilot Plus, FlyTampa etc. I don't see them sacrificing exterior details. Quite the opposite. Then compare these to developers who don't model the interiors. I think you'll see my point. - It can increase the price due to the added effort required I don't believe so. By how much, 2 or 3 dollars? - Many don’t care This is the least true of your points. 'Some' don't care, most either like it somewhat or really enjoy the details. I always find it funny when people 'assume' many people agree with their point, especially when it can be somewhat of an echo chamber (not saying that's the case at Avsim as a lot of people clearly do enjoy interiors). See my replies to your points in bold. Cheers. Edited August 17, 20223 yr by steve310002
August 17, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: I’ll take the $10 with no strings attached. Thanks! 🙂 But Nothing is free, especially when rendering added detail. Right but if a developer can maintain smooth FPS and excellent performance with the added detail what's the trade off? I mean if I can get 80 FPS without an interior but still get 60 with one what have I lost? Now if adding an interior brings performance from 80 FPS to 20FPS that's a different story but if they can add features while maintaining the minimum performance for smooth flight what are you actually giving up? 11 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: Well there’s a few good reasons as have already been mentioned… - It can impact performance - It can come at the expense of other exterior details that are more relevant - It can increase the price due to the added effort required - Many don’t care It would be ideal if airport scenery came with an option for no or empty interiors, and fully rendered interiors. If it was half price for an airport scenery without interiors I think a lot of people would choose that option. It also may have no impact I haven't seen anyone sacrificing exterior detail to add interior, it's a net new addition, not a trade off Which prices have been increased? Define "many" All of those "it can's" are just speculation. Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
August 17, 20223 yr Any developer that takes the time to model the interior isn’t going to sell a ‘lite’ version that is cheaper- they want to sell what they have made at the top price. Sadly there is usually only one 3rd party airport available so there isn’t a choice for most. I do like the interiors as you get to see a bit more of the airport and it brings the whole environment alive. BUT I do get that it has an impact on FPS. I can only think of two possible solutions 1. Provide two installers, one with interiors and one without. 2. It would be great if MSFS was clever and would only load the interior when the aircraft is at the gate (or in drone mode). You wouldn’t need to see (or load) the interior if your about to take off or land, and that would save those crucial FPS when you need them most
August 17, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, chickster25 said: I can only think of two possible solutions 1. Provide two installers, one with interiors and one without. 2. It would be great if MSFS was clever and would only load the interior when the aircraft is at the gate (or in drone mode). You wouldn’t need to see (or load) the interior if your about to take off or land, and that would save those crucial FPS when you need them most 3. Don't buy addons with interiors 4. Get a better computer (and I say that with a humble gtx1080)
August 18, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, steve310002 said: 3. Don't buy addons with interiors 4. Get a better computer (and I say that with a humble gtx1080) I would add a 5th option :d 5. If your totally focussed on accurate aircraft and high FPS and nothing else matters, buy XPlane 12 instead, you will be a lot happier.
August 18, 20223 yr Jo Erlund has made a lot of interior for EBBR. FlyTampa has people moving behind windows and you can see them from within the cockpit. That looks quiet nice. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
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