FSLTL - live traffic finally released

[Amon1973 1,421]

Personally I'd prefer it if Asobo just went back to what we had within the AI traffic system pre SU11, and put the enhancements into some future update when Asobo manage to fix the biggest AI traffic limitations, then we could at least enjoy the likes of FSLTL and AIG on Friday as they were meant to work originally.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Amon1973

[motishow 123]

then , is better to use in game live traffic instead of FSLTL injector?

[hanhamreds 592]

SU11 beta has been a lonely place, no MP no/busted AI 😥

[Cpt_Piett 4,656]

1 hour ago, motishow said:

then , is better to use in game live traffic instead of FSLTL injector?

That's what I'm doing in SU11 beta, and that's probably what I'll continue to do after Friday when SU11 goes live. I.e. no AIG/FSLTL injector but I have the AIG/FSLTL models and liveries in the community folder. 

The drawbacks: poor model matching, some generic models, no way to tune the amount of AI traffic (hence my mainthread is hammered at major hubs). 

Been testing real-time online with AIFlow and AIGround though and it seems to work. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Cpt_Piett

[MorrisMinor 47]

7 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

This is with FSLTL injector? According to the dev* there's an issue in SU11 preventing most arrivals from happening. Apparently they have not been able to find a workaround yet, and say it's more or less up to Asobo. If things are working well with AIFlow+AIGround that's promising. 

 

Yes I am using the FSLTL injector. Just spent nearly an hour at KSFO (San Francisco) and lots of departures with no spinning aircraft. But, no arrivals at all, so my experience at Dubai was something of a one-off it seems. Don't understand why this should happen.

I have tried real time live traffic, but don't like generics and wrong liveries popping up. 

[Tuskin38 6,520]

the reason for very little arrivals with FSLTL/AIG in SU11 is because they broke arrivals. AI aircraft can use STARS now, but they're always using the first STAR in the list, not what one makes sense for what direction they're coming from, when they spawn they'll usually head straight for the STAR. It also screws up their altitude as they climb to cruise level while heading to it.

AI traffic doing VFR works better since they don't have to worry about STARS. So for example Cape Air in the USA does VFR routes with AIG's flight plans.

 

The default live traffic has landings because aircraft can be injected already on final.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Tuskin38

[Cyrex1984 176]

How do i choose wich res the models will be in? I see some people can choose between 1k up to 4k?

[james_d 21]

12 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

That's what I'm doing in SU11 beta, and that's probably what I'll continue to do after Friday when SU11 goes live. I.e. no AIG/FSLTL injector but I have the AIG/FSLTL models and liveries in the community folder. 

The drawbacks: poor model matching, some generic models, no way to tune the amount of AI traffic (hence my mainthread is hammered at major hubs). 

Been testing real-time online with AIFlow and AIGround though and it seems to work. 

Can I ask which specific AIG models you still have to supplement FSLTL?

Good news that FSLTL are bringing more models. Look forward to them.

While SU11b has been broken I've been testing out PSXT and Real Traffic, it's not perfect but I'm enjoying having no go arounds and crazy flight paths 

[Cpt_Piett 4,656]

4 hours ago, james_d said:

Can I ask which specific AIG models you still have to supplement FSLTL?

Good news that FSLTL are bringing more models. Look forward to them.

While SU11b has been broken I've been testing out PSXT and Real Traffic, it's not perfect but I'm enjoying having no go arounds and crazy flight paths 

Yes it's great that they're working on the A380s. Amongst others. 

I've read that FSLTL cannot use the AIG FAIB models. So I've just deleted them from the AIG folder. That was around 20GB out of more than 40GB, so the sim starts a bit faster. 

[pmplayer 9,469]

So what ? Does FSLTL now work with SU11 or not, i do not mean special things, only want to know if it works as you start MSFS or crashes right on beginning ?

cheers 😉

[Cpt_Piett 4,656]

24 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

So what ? Does FSLTL now work with SU11 or not, i do not mean special things, only want to know if it works as you start MSFS or crashes right on beginning ?

cheers 😉

It doesn't crash. But arrivals are broken. 

[styckx 1,871]

Well the final SU11 is released and still no landings. So whatever they changed stayed the same. No airplanes landing makes this addon nearly useless

[SN737 140]

19 minutes ago, styckx said:

Well the final SU11 is released and still no landings. So whatever they changed stayed the same. No airplanes landing makes this addon nearly useless

Total crappp from Asobo, make AIG and FSLTL almost useless. Live traffic is awful, plenty of mismatched liveries, immersion killer at it's best.

[Lange_666 167]

Gonna put MSFS on the shelf again due to this. Haven't even bothered to download the SU11 update.
 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Lange_666

[ErichB 3,643]

 

11 minutes ago, SN737 said:

Total crappp from Asobo, make AIG and FSLTL almost useless. Live traffic is awful, plenty of mismatched liveries, immersion killer at it's best.

Or you can fly on VATSIM....

Orders of magnitude more immersive.

Edited November 11, 2022 by ErichB