Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
elee

Poor Performance with NVIDIA 4090

Recommended Posts

25 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I do agree here.  And some people are commenting about 1080P.  He's not running 1080p lol.  what is that res anyway....3840x1080 - double HD or something.  Probably like somewhere between 1440p and 4k.  

It's a hefty rig for sure.  Something is amiss though.

 

Still not 4k .. a 3090ti would have been more than enough and probably a better balance that would have been in harmony with  the rest of the components for his system. But that is just my opinion alone..

If i am buying a GPU that requires 4 connectors and a certain level of wattage then please actually have the PSU in place before dropping the new card in.

At the moment i would take the card out put the old one back in and order a 1000 watt PSU that has the new connector (ATX 3.0 - NATIVE PCIE 5 -16 pin connector) that avoids the dongle. Once that is installed .. DDU the system to remove all traces of the previous card and start from there.

 

Edited by Maxis
  • Like 3

AMD Ryzen 5900X / Asus Strix B550 F Gaming Wifi / Powercolor AMD 6800XT Red Devil / 32GB Gskill Trident Neo DDR4 3600 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / EVGA Supernova 750 GT PSU / Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance /

Asus VG34VQL3A / Schiit Bifrost DAC+ Schiit Asgard AMP /  Sennheiser HD 558 / Thrustmaster T.16000M + TFRP Rudders

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can almost certainly say that it's mostly a power supply issue. Thats a giant card that needs ample power to give it what it needs. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's not the PSU. 

3 x 150W PCI-E cables from an 850W PSU is enough for the FE version (Original Nvidia card). You're correct in saying that it only needs the 4th if you're going to overclock.

If your GPU is from a board partner it might need some more juice. 

You're going from an AMD GPU to an Nvidia GPU, the issue is likely with drivers or MSFS.

If you're seeing this issue in other applications than MSFS, it's likely a driver thing. Use DDU to clean out those old drivers and install fresh one.
If you're only having this issue in MSFS, try deleting your UserCfg dot opt file and let it repopulate. 

Download a few benchmarks and run them to figure out if it's MSFS or something else. 3DMark is a good one that you can find on Steam.

You'll figure it out and enjoy your new card in no time. 👍

Edited by Republic3D
  • Like 1

R7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 OC 16 GB | 64 GB 3600 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
Experience with Flight Simulator since early 1990s

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd set everything back to default in the graphics settings, and go from there, also the same in the nvidia control panel, set that back to its base settings, and then change things incrementally.

You may find out the particular graphics setting that is the problem. (if it isn't someat to do with your hardware)😅

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is it something more obvious like enabling DX12 and DLSS?  Or does msfs not support that new 3.0 yet?


| FAA ZMP |
| PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 32GB 5600 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

DLSS3 is only available in the SU11 beta I think(DLSS3 is called nVidia DLSS frame generation), so if you have not opted inn for the beta, I strongly suggest you do so. I'm running 4K/Ultra settings with DLSS3 and it is absolutely stunning. From 4K medium settings and 70fps(3080 Ti)---> to 4k ultra and now seeing 140+ fps is quite something.

Edited by Bionor
  • Like 1

Ryzen 9 5900X || Gigabyte RTX 4090 Windforce 24G || G.Skill TridentZ 32GB@3600CL16 || Asus ROG Strix Gaming-E X570
XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB M.2 NVMe || Corsair iCUE H115i PRO XT || Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB || Phanteks Revolt Pro 1000W
Gigabyte 43'' FV43U 4k@144hz || X55 Rhino || G27 || Oculus Quest 2 || Turtle Beach Velocity One

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For performance to drop like this I’m guessing  it needs to be something in the sim setup or drivers overall, I can’t imagine it has to do with pairing with a (slightly) older CPU.  That wouldn’t explain a degradation in performance.

Hopefully someone smarter than me can help the OP figure out the conflict or the adjustment needed.


Dave

Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 4080, 55" Samsung Q80T, 32GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, HP Reverb G2, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

last but not least: exclude MSFS and all related directories (like Community ) from any antivirus app you may have installed.

  • Like 1

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, HP Reverb G2 VR headset @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Aeronautical Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's an even more fundamental question: Is your entire computer behaving sluggishly? Or just MSFS?


Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I do agree here.  And some people are commenting about 1080P.  He's not running 1080p lol.  what is that res anyway....3840x1080 - double HD or something.  Probably like somewhere between 1440p and 4k.  

 

 

It's probably two HD monitors side by side (two 1920 x 1080). I fly exactly like that sometimes and get better fps than the OP (render 100, graphics setting is the Ultra preset, DLSS, Quality. 3070 gpu 5600x cpu. 

But remember his drivers and so forth are the same as he had before dropping in his new gpu. And he had no glaring issue like he does now. Which sort of rules that out. A faulty gpu is unlikely. Sounds like he has enough power connected.

I think that rules almost everything is ruled out! 

So, no help am I, LOL.

 


Ryzen5 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, TWO Dell S3222DGM 32" screens spanned with Nvidia surround 5185 x 1440p, 32 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, CH Flightstick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Fielder said:

It's probably two HD monitors side by side (two 1920 x 1080). I fly exactly like that sometimes and get better fps than the OP (render 100, graphics setting is the Ultra preset, DLSS, Quality. 3070 gpu 5600x cpu. 

But remember his drivers and so forth are the same as he had before dropping in his new gpu. And he had no glaring issue like he does now. Which sort of rules that out. A faulty gpu is unlikely. Sounds like he has enough power connected.

I think that rules almost everything is ruled out! 

So, no help am I, LOL.

 

Well it's helpful too.

Anyway, 

From reading this thread, @elee we think its a possible one, or a combination of these items

1) Faulty PSU

2) Not enough PSU cables connected

3) DLSS 3.0 / DX12 not enabled

4) video driver conflict - use DDU cleaner- https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

5) CPU under loaded - possibly overclock it to allow the GPU do also do more work?

 

  • Like 2

| FAA ZMP |
| PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 32GB 5600 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Bionor said:

From 4K medium settings and 70fps(3080 Ti)---> to 4k ultra and now seeing 140+ fps is quite something.

Great Results, what LOD are you running?

I was only hoping to get locked 60fps running 1440p with Ultra settings by upgrading to a new 4090 and latest Gen CPU, but it sounds like your performance surpasses that...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Simple answer to this...MSFS is not fully optimized to use newer hardware to it's full potential....Lot's of that old FSX code still there. 

  • Like 1

Discord | YouTube | Facebook

34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
×
×
  • Create New...