Interesting.  The OP visited Avsim as recently as 41 minutes before this post from me, and did not respond to this topic he started.

This makes me laugh tbh.

56 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Interesting.  The OP visited Avsim as recently as 41 minutes before this post from me, and did not respond to this topic he started.

He's probably busy implementing the suggestions by the good people here.  I know I would be (not posting here) until I had experimented with a few things...

11 minutes ago, Mace said:

He's probably busy implementing the suggestions by the good people here.  I know I would be (not posting here) until I had experimented with a few things...

Hi, I am indeed trying to do some things suggested here before answering almost everything. Very grateful for all comments and suggestions. I anticipate that I try to get a 1000w power source to do a test but it was impossible.

3 minutes ago, elee said:

Hi, I am indeed trying to do some things suggested here before answering almost everything. Very grateful for all comments and suggestions. I anticipate that I try to get a 1000w power source to do a test but it was impossible.

👍

2 hours ago, iFlySimX said:

Simple answer to this...MSFS is not fully optimized to use newer hardware to it's full potential....Lot's of that old FSX code still there. 

I have all settings at Ultra except T-LOD which sits between 100 and 200, situation dependent.  For me to be able to manage the PMDG 738 out of KLAX or KJFK  at T-LOD of 200 or I really need at least a12900K or better.  But when I look at the visual differences between T-LOD of 100 and 200, it's just hardly there.   Sure, you can notice some things but it's just so underwhelming, the difference.   

Edited October 18, 20223 yr by Noel

7 hours ago, TravelRunner404 said:

It's likely something in your community folder, the plane you are using, and/or SU11 (Beta) having a conflict or bug.

There are three things we need to know to offer you any advice that doesn't involve power supply guesses or NVIDIA bashing.

1. Take a photo of your community folder and post it, or at the least list everything that's in there.

2. Go into the game and once you are in the scenario where you see poor performance turn on Developer Mode (Esc-Settings-General-Developers-Developer Mode ON).  When that screen comes up there are three timings you need to note: Mainthread, rndrthread, and GPU.  Note the miliseconds for each.

3. Open task manager and show us a list of processes that are running while you are in this scenario to make sure nothing is hogging resources. Of course be careful not to screenshot any sensitive or personal information both in your community folder and task manager.

Most likely one of your mods or planes is conflicting but rending 3.3 million megapixels with the 4090 is like driving a Ferrari on the 405 at rush hour and expecting to get your destination sooner.

Hello, thank you for your answer and wish to help. I want to add that you reinstall W11 and MSFS when you install the 4090, this in case some driver or old thing is giving problems. Add that when I'm in MSFS, the power source, which as I said is an ASUS Thor with a screen that indicates the watts consumed, never exceeds 500W. As I said before, no matter what changes I make to the MSFS settings, the FPS stays the same.

Here is what is requested: NOTE: I had problems sharing the images directly, so I added the links

1-

Delete the Community folder and the same test in KJFK Gate 31, FPS = 40.

Another test with only FSLTL Library in the same airport, FPS = 23. So it doesn't seem to be a problem of any MOD.

2-

KJFK Gate 31 No air traffic

https://ibb.co/zSb2cTm

KJFK Gate 31 with FSLTL traffic

https://ibb.co/17f7Zgt

3-

This image of the task manager is in order from highest to lowest CPU consumption.

https://ibb.co/Zc3nVPM

I would like to be able to do the test with a 1000W source, but it was difficult to achieve this today.

 

 

8 minutes ago, elee said:

 

 

KJFK Gate 31 with FSLTL traffic

https://ibb.co/17f7Zgt

 

 

I mean you're definitly CPU heavy right there...  Have you considered OCing that bad boy a bit more?  11900K is no slouch

9 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I mean you're definitly CPU heavy right there...  Have you considered OCing that bad boy a bit more?  11900K is no slouch

Currently with the turbo it reaches 5Mhz in its 4 Cores. Do you think you need more?

3 minutes ago, elee said:

Currently with the turbo it reaches 5Mhz in its 4 Cores. Do you think you need more?

Maybe not.  That's about how I run mine.  12700K - I only enabled XMP 3.0 - so turbo is about the same.  My E cores only go to like 3.8GHz I think but the other P cores go to 4.9 GHz.

I'm at 1440p res - I do run a second 1080P monitor but only for charts so it's not really driving much over there.  I use a 1080 Ti.  In situations similar to what you've listed I also run in the 20's.  Heavy scenery, with FSLTL, heavy clouds and addon glass aircraft.  That's the rough CPU killing combo imo.

Have you joined the SU11 beta and grabbed the DX12 DLSS 3.0 supported drivers?  I think that would really get you the big gains.  On all the benchmarks you pretty much only see like double fps when you enabled dlss 3.0

33 minutes ago, elee said:

KJFK Gate 31 with FSLTL traffic

https://ibb.co/17f7Zgt

You're far worse than CPU bound something's gravely amiss.  Do you have the motherboard chipset drivers installed?  CPU temps okay?

16 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Maybe not.  That's about how I run mine.  12700K - I only enabled XMP 3.0 - so turbo is about the same.  My E cores only go to like 3.8GHz I think but the other P cores go to 4.9 GHz.

I'm at 1440p res - I do run a second 1080P monitor but only for charts so it's not really driving much over there.  I use a 1080 Ti.  In situations similar to what you've listed I also run in the 20's.  Heavy scenery, with FSLTL, heavy clouds and addon glass aircraft.  That's the rough CPU killing combo imo.

Have you joined the SU11 beta and grabbed the DX12 DLSS 3.0 supported drivers?  I think that would really get you the big gains.  On all the benchmarks you pretty much only see like double fps when you enabled dlss 3.0

I just did AI Overclocking and it has reached 5.3Mhz. Same test, same result. By the way, I'm on SU11 Beta with DLSS 3.0 and Nvidia 522.25 driver and also DX12 beta with DLSS enabled in MSFS.

This shouldn't be happening. As you say, you should be seeing 60 FPS or much more.

The strangest thing is that the GPU does not exceed 40% utilization. The GPU Clock in just 1300Mhz

15 minutes ago, Noel said:

You're far worse than CPU bound something's gravely amiss.  Do you have the motherboard chipset drivers installed?  CPU temps okay?

I have the motherboard drivers installed to the latest level. Updated BIOS, CPU temperature does not exceed 60 C (140 F).

3 hours ago, iFlySimX said:

MSFS is not fully optimized to use newer hardware to it's full potential....Lot's of that old FSX code still there.

what? MSFS uses all available cores - more than FSX (2)  and uses for the first time even the GPU to compute massively parallel tasks like CFD, unlike FSX not only to render an image. and like FSX, yes MSFS still does calculate a flightmodel.

"Lot's of that old FSX code still there."

like that old 64bit DirectX12 😊

lot's of old physics still there, haven't updated that old newton's law of motion in the last 300 years. awful.

Edited October 18, 20223 yr by turbomax

A lot of the same Windows API code is still in Windows all the way back to Windows NT or earlier.
C or C++ doesn't change ALL that much over the years, so code is more re-usable.

That said, none of the rendering or graphics code that matters was ported, or it wouldn't be able to do any of the stuff it can do.
Most of the legacy code used was in the XML stuff and airport design, and quite a bit in the SDK still.