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iniBuilds A310 first impressions

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Hey I also found a video series on Youtube for "pilots new to the A300 and A310".  Here is one vid in the series, which I found to be enLIGHTening.  Ha ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DKNCIAG5Fs

But now I know more about the lights!  Including what Nav/Logo 1 and 2 means.

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I've been flying this so much since it came out and it definitely has helped fill that gap of 'study-level' long-haul airliners right now! Thank you so much Inibuilds and Microsoft!!!

The only time I've seen an overspeeed in cruise was when activating real world weather - I had clear weather selected prior to that. I always use cost index 100 since sim fuel and maintenace is free.

I've seen both an undershoot and overshoot on ILS approaches and at other times at the same airport it has been fine. Could be weather related - I wasn't paying attention to the wind speed and direction.

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On 11/26/2022 at 4:49 PM, motishow said:

Is ILS working on this plane? in my case when it catch the ILS signal it doesn't descend

Several flights and landings now with the A310, so almost all landings done with ILS and never had any problems.

This works just beautiful for me..

cheers  😉

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Announcement from iniBuilds 😁

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Future Roadmap

So what's next? 

We have a very busy 2023, and are working on super cool projects. Not much we can say for now, but we know you will love some of the aircraft we are working on.

What I can say is following so much positivity and interest in the A310, I am pleased to confirm we will be releasing the A300-600F aircraft in 2023 (independent release). 

We are doing a completely new exterior 3D model for Microsoft Flight Simulator, so as things progress, we will update you closer to the time of release!

 

 

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I did not several flights too. Of course, ILS works. However, I could not always find a way to fly the initial approach in a "managed" mode. Most of the time, I had to switch to selected speed and often V/S. After intercepting the ILS with a proper speed, the plane followed the guidance precisely. Taking over manually for the final found me too high often, but worked in the end. Any problems may have been totally my fault.

But I found too many bugs to consider this antiquity a pleasure. I had some missing airways and incorrect constraints in the approach. The plane flies the NAV path in a very unelegant way, overshooting almost any corner. The hockey sticks do not predict the descent accurately. In contrast to the modern Fenix A320, the plane feels very primitive, and no fun to handle for me.

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I think it's a lot of fun, perhaps due to all it's quirks. It's more demanding to handle than the more modern airliners, and I like the extra challenge. 

Been having some issues though with managed climb, as it doesn't seem to respect the altitude restrictions. Was just climbing out of KDEN and the aircraft climb straight through a below 10.000ft restriction in profile mode. 

On the approach I tend to use LVL/CH and V/S as it gives me a bit more control than PROF DESC. 

EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon. Just reached cruise alt and the aircraft nearly reached stall speeds even though I was in PROF mode on the climb. It had a speed target of .60 something which was in the low speed area. I could not activate PROF mode and had to manually select a speed of .79. 

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48 minutes ago, flyingpauls said:

In contrast to the modern Fenix A320, the plane feels very primitive, and no fun to handle for me.

I'm not sure if i understand you correctly but isn't this due to the technology age difference between A320 and A310's.

A flight in the A320 can almost completely be programmed, where as in the A310 the Autopilot is to assist the pilot in flying. 

the taxi light is very poor? anyone has a fix for that? thanks 

55 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Been having some issues though with managed climb, as it doesn't seem to respect the altitude restrictions. Was just climbing out of KDEN and the aircraft climb straight through a below 10.000ft restriction in profile mode. 

My cheatsheet/notes on the climb:

A310 vnav will NOT obey altitude constraints in climb. This is true to real-world A310.  That means on your SID
that may have progressive altitude constraints, you must enter the LOWEST altitude in your MCP and you still arm PROFILE
mode.

And once you hit an altitude constraint, when you're ready to move to the next higher constraint, set the new altitude and the plane will NOT automatically climb, you must pull the altitude knob on the MCP (in this simulation, you pull it by using the top side of the knob).

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50 minutes ago, Mace said:

A310 vnav will NOT obey altitude constraints in climb.

Didn't know that, but it explains a lot. Thanks for letting me know! 

I had another issue: ILS 26L into KLAS. The aircraft was getting too low even though it was following the glide slope. Had to go manual landing to prevent flying into the palm trees. Clearly the glideslope did not correspond with the PAPI lights (they showed 4 red), so I'm not really sure what the issue was. 

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1 hour ago, Mace said:

A310 vnav will NOT obey altitude constraints in climb. This is true to real-world A310

And apparently it will “sometimes” obey constraints on descent, lovely little quirk to keep you on your toes!

Edited by regis9

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For anyone having problems with ILS approaches, try recycling the land button on the FCU. It seems to clear up any issues during the approach.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, regis9 said:

And apparently it will “sometimes” obey constraints on descent, lovely little quirk to keep you on your toes!

Lol 😂 Did ILS 26L into KLAS yesterday and descended in PROF mode. It did respect the restrictions. I selected 3800’ and descended from 8000’ at PRINO. Although it didn’t descend past the constraints, it was hard to tell what it would do as the constraints didn’t show on the PFD - only the final altitude of 3800’.

So I’m wondering if it’s easier to just use LVH/CH and V/S mode.

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11 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I think it's a lot of fun, perhaps due to all it's quirks. It's more demanding to handle than the more modern airliners, and I like the extra challenge. 

 

Same feeling here, it is an older plane not that modern and that is what makes this aircraft a A310, a little bit a classic airliner and it handles like that.

This plane makes fun precisely because of that and for some smaller issues we shure get updates from the Devs .

cheers 😉

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