Side note,  there is a phenomenon referred to as Mast Bumping.  If it occurs in a severe manner with the R44,  the main rotor can flex downward and cut off the tail boom.

 

Edited December 23, 20223 yr by Waldo Pepper

The B47 gave me a lot of lag and made it an unpleasant experience.  Had none of that with the Asobo FM so I am thinking that my system has a "delayed" reaction because of the external FM.  I'm not alone with this either so I am waiting for the Cowan version.

LouP

Am I really the only one who cannot avoid a hot start? Out of several hundred starts (feels like it) I've had a grand total of Four! I have had tips from RotorRick himself 'Roll throttle on slowly to idle release and NO FURTHER' That worked once, never to be repeated.

The only way to get any flying in is to click 'Ignore'

There are two options.

1: I'm surrounded by seriously clever people and I'm dumber than horse droppings. Or..

2: You're all using 'ignore' as well. 🙄

 

Edited December 24, 20223 yr by Ron Attwood

44 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

Am I really the only one who cannot avoid a hot start? Out of several hundred starts (feels like it) I've had a grand total of Four! I have had tips from RotorRick himself 'Roll throttle on slowly to idle release and NO FURTHER' That worked once, never to be repeated.

The only way to get any flying in is to click 'Ignore'

There are two options.

1: I'm surrounded by seriously clever people and I'm dumber than horse droppings. Or..

2: You're all using 'ignore' as well. 🙄

 

Not sure about how realistic it is being portrayed....

 

But what works for me is to keep the throttle closed until reacing 15% NG  - Don´t wait further !!

Then at 15% NG move the throttle until the Idle release button "Snaps" and keep it at that positiom until NG increases further.

As NG increases - slowly feed more throttle in until fully open.

 

Hot starts seems to occure if You feed in Throttle to fast,  NG get's too high above 15%NG or moving the throtle below the point where the Idle releas button snaps (there is a deadzone between snap op and snap close).

 

I constantly got Hot starts until I realised that I had to "snap" the throttle at 15%NG and not past it - say at 20%NG.

Also I had to stop moving the throttle once the Idle release button had snapped open.

 

32 minutes ago, Wothan said:

But what works for me is to keep the throttle closed until reaching 15% NG  - Don´t wait further !!

Then at 15% NG move the throttle until the Idle release button "Snaps" and keep it at that position until NG increases further.

As NG increases - slowly feed more throttle in until fully open.

Sound very familiar except the bold bit. I keep it at that position and it still rockets round to the self destruct line. I'll keep trying though.

4 hours ago, Ron Attwood said:

Sound very familiar except the bold bit. I keep it at that position and it still rockets round to the self destruct line. I'll keep trying though.

Had this problem, till I realized that, my Saitek TPM throttle lever was very 'noisy'. I then bound my Saitek quadrant throttle lever instead. 

now I get normal starts 99%. My quadrant levers are also tiny bit noisy.

I advise those having constant hot starts to check the devise lever for 'noise'.

2 hours ago, Romeo_Tango said:

Had this problem, till I realized that, my Saitek TPM throttle lever was very 'noisy'.

My thoughts too. It could be a calibration issue.

How to spend a productive Christmas/

I’ve nailed it! Yes, I thought that before. This time I can get a good start every time.
I have the throttle assigned to an axis. The trick is to roll the throttle to the very point at which the idle rel clicks. Then roll it back to juuuust before it clicks. Then when you get the dreaded 15% nudge the throttle so the idle release pops.Immediately word not allowed your hand away. Tada! It says to me the that area is simple too sensitive.
Up. up and away

How that helps folks without a throttle axis I've no idea.

1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said:

The trick is to roll the throttle to the very point at which the idle rel clicks. Then roll it back to juuuust before it clicks. Then when you get the dreaded 15% nudge the throttle so the idle release pops.

I am getting frustrated about this heli. I have never seen idle rel clicking, and never got the engine to start. Also, a cold and dark button would be really helpful. Most of the time, even when I start on a helipad, engines are running.

4 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

I am getting frustrated about this heli. I have never seen idle rel clicking, and never got the engine to start. Also, a cold and dark button would be really helpful. Most of the time, even when I start on a helipad, engines are running.

Don't get frustrated I think it's a bug!

28 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

Also, a cold and dark button would be really helpful.

If you select a parking space it will always be C&D. If you select a runway and that includes a helipad, it will always load engine running and ready to go.

26 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I have never seen idle rel clicking

Unless you have a separate throttle assigned as well as a collective you won't see an idle rel click.

I think.

26 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

If you select a parking space it will always be C&D. If you select a runway and that includes a helipad, it will always load engine running and ready to go.

I am not a helicopter pilot, but it seems counter intuitive to me that the engines are always running when starting on a helipad. In any way, it would be great to have the ability to start cold and dark wherever one commences a flight.

23 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

Unless you have a separate throttle assigned as well as a collective you won't see an idle rel click.

I think.

Thank you thank you thank you, that did the trick. It now clicks, and I can start the engine 🙂

Peter

Unless it’s a private helipad used by just one operator, it makes perfect sense the heli would already be running at the helipad…

1 hour ago, conundrum said:

Unless it’s a private helipad used by just one operator, it makes perfect sense the heli would already be running at the helipad…

Care to share a link about basic helicopter operations? I have occasionally played with helicopters in FSX and P3D, but I found them uncontrollable. Things were a bit better in XP11, but not to the point that I enjoyed it. What really made a big difference for me now is VR, and now I am hooked. I have lots to learn, so any pointers in the right direction would be great.

Peter