9 hours ago, Noel said:

You're in left field my friend.  I fully appreciate why XP has its adherents but fair and balanced is never part of the discussion here, by core members.  When I first came here looking for information about XP12 I had no agenda other than to learn about it, but when the anti-MSFS drivel that was laced with such animousity and outright lies rapidly appeared it became very clear this forum was not the place to get fair and balanced anything. 

Here you go, I just read this from one of the frequent flyers here...this is absolute classic out of this forum.   Do you see the constant, recurrent derogatory analysis in this post, twising the poll into this? 

If he's in Left Field, you're way out in the back parking lot.

Your post is non sequitur. 

How is it you're somehow conflating the reasons people use a sim with the way they treat other anonymous people on an internet forum?

I fly regularly in several sims, and as such participate across a number of communities. I can tell you that "constant, recurrent derogatory anal-ysis" and "anti-[insert any sim here] drivel that was laced with such animousity and outright lies" exists in every single community I visit.

I mean, if you want to experience the pinnacle of such behavior, go into your opposite political party's fora and see what happens to you.

By comparison, AvSim as a whole is populated by consummate Gentlemen with the most refined manners and highest intellect.

7 hours ago, mSparks said:

 Im pointing out the fact windows lacks multicore support is the reason windows phone died

Um, no. It was because they thought they could charge for the OS, not take the time to port the most popular apps into the OS, then buy a hardware company that competes with their other customers, and a multitude of other boneheaded business blunders.

I mean hell, then they took the Phone interface (actually a good one) and plopped it on top of Windows and then marveled at how it was so incredibly unpopular...SMH...

"Multi-Core" might be in the list - somewhere around Reason #936

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and very likely the reason xbox doesnt support VR.

Xbox runs Windows on windows-compatible hardware.

Xbox doesn't support VR because hardware cost is a major factor, both that of the Xbox itself, and that of the headset. not because of "multi core".

Regardless of how we may feel, VR in general, and especially for highly computationally intensive flight simulation titles, is an overly expensive niche feature for affluent consumers. Exactly the opposite of the Xbox business model.

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

If MP is a silly gimmick, why is LR investing so much in developing it and evangelizing it?

Now, it's called a silly gimmick for the gamer crowd that noone really needs or wants.

When it releases, it will be called practically perfect, a must have and soooo immersive and realistic, and good thing that LR paved and lead the way for MP in flightsim and all other sims followed. Business as usual 😉

7 hours ago, mSparks said:

That's why even microsoft uses linux for the vast majority of azure servers they stream the msfs scenery from.... They just dont have the code and expertise needed to make it in house. 

And yet somehow all those bumbling fools have the code and expertise to reliably support around 300 million daily users of their Exchange, Sharepoint, Teams, etc. all running Windows, with most of it running on Azure.

Serving many hundreds of thousands of streams of complex imagery is indeed an impressive workload, but it is also a highly uniform and computationally efficient workload.

Whereas the hundreds of millions of transactions that happen in M365/Azure every day tend to be highly "random" and therefore far more intensive to serve.

We're pretty far afield here, Sparky, and there are plenty of good, valid reasons that the scenery might be served from Linux/Unix that have little to do with "multi core".

7 hours ago, Dermot McClusky said:

It's MS, they're devious and sneaky.

If that's your explanation are you really sure that you should be using a modern computer? It takes at least 3 dedicated mouse clicks to buy something from the World Map. SMH.

4 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Xbox doesn't support VR because hardware cost is a major factor, both that of the Xbox itself, and that of the headset. not because of "multi core".

Regardless of how we may feel, VR in general, and especially for highly computationally intensive flight simulation titles, is an overly expensive niche feature for affluent consumers. Exactly the opposite of the Xbox business model.

meanwhile, everything you said there is false, so perhaps you should review how you came to such incorrect conclusions.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-vr2/

https://www.ign.com/articles/no-mans-sky-playstation-vr2-release-date-psvr2

There is also answers in this navigraph survey showing VR is very much no longer niche.

I do agree flight sim + VR is highly computationally intensive tho, that's why lacking OS support for multicore is the difference between being good at them vs not when everyone has access to the same hardware.

For background, since we are very much entering an era where that topic is make or break for every tech stack I would very much recommend taking time out of your day to watch

It touches pretty deeply on all this, MS, SUN, IBM, Unix/Linux etc. All that fun and games is now, 20 years after it "finished" in the server space, coming to consumer hardware.

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14 hours ago, Noel said:

That's poor photogrammetry only which is not ready for prime time and is why so many fly with it off for now and rely on Blackshark AI--here's what it looks like w/ PG off, all over the world in large part--unbelievably accurate, photorealistic beyond words, and always looks this good here in pedestrian Kansas City MO:

 

 

 

 

Why do you care so much about what we think of MSFS?  Is it that important you get our approval?  We've seen the images.  Many times.  It's almost impossible to go to youtube and NOT see an MSFS video.  

Imagine we posted an X-Plane screenshot in the MSFS forum and started flinging adjectives about how great it is, all through the post.  The reports would be flying to the mods, abrams_tank would be multi-tagging the poster and a moderator, complaining about it, and the poster would be ripped to shreds with unrivalled name calling.  

I have my own opinions about the scenery in MSFS, and for obvious reasons, I won't mention what they are...mainly because any criticisms I have of it will fall on deaf MSFS ears. 

If MSFS does it for you, then more power to you, and I hope you get what you want out of it.  

The question stands.  Why do you care so much??

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

Why do you care so much??

Why do you care why he cares??

Merry Christmas everyone! Great to see we all get along so nicely 😂

Just now, Rimshot said:

Why do you care why he cares??

Why do you care why I care?

WOW!!! Impressive!

9 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

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Is that what I should call ... or shouldn't I? Cultism? 🤷‍♂️😛

Nevertheless 😋 - Merry Christmas 🎅🌲

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23 minutes ago, Greazer said:

But in this case, the time was ticking closer to Xmas. And so the instruction came from Austin: Just release it!

Not only are you misinformed, but first of all, It was released in September.  And even if he released it in December, so what?  Why not get it out for the Christmas rush?  I'd say it's a brilliant move.

Look at that graph.  Almost 1000 units sold on steam in less than a week.  Genius.

Edited December 25, 20223 yr by GoranM

Can’t you all just give it a rest. It’s Christmas Day and I’d rather not have to spend my time deciding whether to lock topics or hide posts.

Unless this topic takes an upturn immediately I will lock it.

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

It’s Christmas Day

One of them 🎄 Mine is now 7th Jan.

But a very Merry Christmas to you sir, thank you for dropping by, have a Mince pie and shot of Rakja.

21 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Why do you care why I care?

I am a caring person 😉

1 minute ago, Rimshot said:

I am a caring person 😉

There you go.  Me too.

🎅