Just now, ryanbatc said:

They definitely fixed the in cloud and near cloud performance issues!  The sim runs pretty well - though I hope they continue work on anti aliasing... it seems almost non existent even at 8x msaa.

There is a noticeable difference in VR where it lowers shimmering.  However I can't afford more than FXAA otherwise it kills FPS which is most important priority stats for VR. 

29 minutes ago, Sims Smith said:

There is a noticeable difference in VR where it lowers shimmering.  However I can't afford more than FXAA otherwise it kills FPS which is most important priority stats for VR. 

In 2d, fxaa seems more smooth (but less jagged) than msaa.  You can see my comparison in that locked thread.  I'm unable to even use it in vr because my mouse cursor inputs aren't being received for some reason....or they are but extremely slowly.  I have the little hand wands but I really dislike those.

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by ryanbatc

7 hours ago, Republic DC9 said:

I am struggling to get a smooth, fluid experience on my 10900K and RX6800 system...it was incredible during the demo...quite fluid, looked great...then in subsequent releases not.

My biggest issue is that even though I’m at like 30-37 FPS the frames kind of stutter along while another leading sim is butter smooth with the occasional hard stutter.

But glad to see the OP is having success as it gives me hope I DO like XP.

Your issue might be due to the poor compatibility between XP and AMD hardware. The reason why it was doing great during the demo is because default planes don't use a thing called SASL, which 99% of 3rd party aircraft use it. Long story short, XP has a history of ignoring AMD users, which hopefully will be fixed in upcoming releases.

Well I may have sounded a slight exhuberant - but having spent the best part of a decade trying (along with hundreds of others) to patch, tweak, modify or simply recode some parts of the MS FSX system I thought the P3D 64 bit coding would finally do it - wrong! I spent another 2 years with P3DV5 to realise no matter how good some additional changes were (TrueSky for example or xml processes) the inherent limitations of the platform was the MS logical processing cores and the need to use MS friendly or supported graphics systems. I know it was my affection for some classy work by lots of modellers and developers particularly of flying boats and old props that kept me hooked in (MSFS was incapable of doing it) So the point is not a comparison but to see how different architecture, programming and frankly a better more collaborative approach could work wonders. In other words this is a completely different simulator and it shows!

I cannot comment on VR I do not use it- just a personal choice. 

As for AMD cards yes the problems there are across a lot of platforms not just XP. 

XP12 appears to be using multi-core threading and load sharing very efficiently (not simply shedding but still jamming all the instructions onto 1 or 2 cores. Their Vulcan system seems to be tuned to the latest NVIDIA graphics so that will shut a few people out as well!

It is the attention to detail that has really impressed me whether it is light management, scenery or aircraft physics. I have not sought a single addon or tweak to improve what I have, it works! I no longer get CPU-GPU chokes nor do I need a whole bunch of addon processes (Like AS or FSUIPC or SODE or SHADER mods) to fix some inherent issue. 

I have a lot to get used to and learn particularly with keyboard commands and shortcuts. If that is the least of my worries I can live with that. 

Yeah I do miss some old pistons airliners, like the Constellation or DC-6 and the Shorts Flying Boat world (So the solution there may be for me to learn some new skills and do it myself - that will be fun!)

2 hours ago, coastaldriver said:

As for AMD cards yes the problems there are across a lot of platforms not just XP. 

Def not. Me one of the abused AMD users but all other platforms performing very well including xp11. So for me def I prefer to use a steady performing xp11 or other sims where I actually can fly the stuff I want. XP12 parked in hangar until fixed for AMD.

But have fun you non AMD happy pilots 😉

Cheers T.

 

 

31 minutes ago, Torsen said:

Me one of the abused AMD users but all other platforms performing very well including xp11.

The reason AMD is (generally) cheaper than Nvidia for the same hardware is they spend a lot less developing their drivers, focusing on supporting the few games reviewers use for their benchmarks. XP12 is right on the bleeding edge of Vulkan and not used in any hardware review benchmarks that I am aware of.

Best way to resolve that imho - for XP12 at least, is to lobby some of the hardware reviewers, e.g. Gamers Nexus to include XP12 in their next review.

AMD will soon pull their finger out and sort their #### for X-Plane when their top of the line cards are coming in behind nvidias cheapest in a GN hardware review.

I have a 4090 and pretty much have to turn off FXAA completely to get flyable FPS in VR. I have also not used clouds in VR since the first release so lets hope they really are improved along with performance.

6 minutes ago, razalom said:

I have a 4090

I'm on a RTX3070, AMD5900X, Fedora Core 37 and getting a solid 60fps+ in VR with

Its heavenly.

Ortho makes a big difference tho, it does struggle a fair bit with default autogen (and also lessons the effect of lowering render distance).

I few of us have been begging LR to give us a VR/2D preference switcher. absolutely no problem maxing everything in 2D, which is good for screenshots and videos.

 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by mSparks

3 minutes ago, mSparks said:

I'm on a RTX3070, AMD5900X, Fedora Core 37 and getting a solid 60fps+ in VR 

What VR headset are you using?

1 minute ago, DD_Arthur said:

What VR headset are you using?

PSVR

23 minutes ago, mSparks said:

XP12 is right on the bleeding edge of Vulkan and not used in any hardware review benchmarks that I am aware of.

So is that a good sign then or a bad? 😉 AMD is so cheap I can just sadly only do properly racing, shooters, other subpar unamazing sims but not xp12? Yeah makes perfect sense 😉

I know its totally blasphemic to ask but could it even be possible that somethings changed between xp12 beta and rc/final that was not AMD driver related (as this was stable over time)? The performance in beta was indeed amazing. But it isn't anymore. 

But I am patient and wait... 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Torsen

3 hours ago, bogdansrb said:

Long story short, XP has a history of ignoring AMD users

This is simply false. Laminar have been in contact with AMD and reporting bugs for the past few years. The shimmering screens were an AMD driver issue, and it was up to AMD to fix that in the drivers. Laminar are still trying to get more fixes in AMD drivers, by staying in contact with AMD, to this day. 

6 minutes ago, Torsen said:

that somethings changed between xp12 beta and rc/final that was not AMD driver related

corrupt shadercache and preferences files can cause problems regardless of GPU, first go to when having problems is delete those (backup preferences), this has fixed issues for several people, myself included.

 

 

45 minutes ago, mSparks said:

I few of us have been begging LR to give us a VR/2D preference switcher. absolutely no problem maxing everything in 2D, which is good for screenshots and videos.

This will be awesome for me as a mix VR and 2D flyer.

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

PSVR

I see.