One more question folks..

Is there any way to Remove that excessive blue-ish  color (environment or atmosphere) from the sim? Or maybe tweak it? It is Excessively blue when flying during the day on a sunny day. And no, flying in real life it is not that blue. Looks very Unnatural. 

 

 

On 12/29/2022 at 7:56 PM, ryanbatc said:

I'm envious of people who have it - It clocks way higher than the 12700K I just bought less than a year ago.  (It fits in my Z690 though lol!)

Then again, the AMD 7 series X3D cpu's are coming soon....

I'd be curious to see how well those do

I've got a I9-9900K and in the next year am anticipating upgrading it. Having just got a 7900XT that I am really pleased with I'll be watching to see what AMD comes up with......

On 1/4/2023 at 3:02 AM, joemiller said:

One more question folks..

Is there any way to Remove that excessive blue-ish  color (environment or atmosphere) from the sim? Or maybe tweak it? It is Excessively blue when flying during the day on a sunny day. And no, flying in real life it is not that blue. Looks very Unnatural. 

 

 

Yeah, I noticed that too after having MSFS 2020 on pause for the past one year or so. I don't remember the sim looking this "cartoony".

I was running a 12900k and a 3090. I wasn’t happy with performance on p3d and msfs with my 4k monitor so much I went and bought a 1440p monitor. One day I was at microcenter and just decided to buy a 13900k on a whim. I was blown away with the amount of frames improvement I got over the 12900k. I am using my 4k monitor again and getting 45-60 fps in both p3d and msfs. I was struggling 30-35 fps at 4k with the 12900k. I’m extremely happy with the 13900k. 

12 hours ago, Evan said:

I was running a 12900k and a 3090. I wasn’t happy with performance on p3d and msfs with my 4k monitor so much I went and bought a 1440p monitor. One day I was at microcenter and just decided to buy a 13900k on a whim. I was blown away with the amount of frames improvement I got over the 12900k. I am using my 4k monitor again and getting 45-60 fps in both p3d and msfs. I was struggling 30-35 fps at 4k with the 12900k. I’m extremely happy with the 13900k. 

Did you OC your 12900K? 13900K? I’m in a similar situation with my 12900K (5.2ghz) and wondering if I need to pull the trigger on the 13900k. 

Thats really interesting.  I've been reading a lot of reviews and comparisons between the 12900k and the 13900k and chose to get the 12900 here last month because it was priced significantly lower at the time.  Did you graph out your processor utilization to determine if it was in fact the bottleneck causing the issue? What optimizations if any were done?  There are so many variables that could play into this.  It seems similar to the 8700k vs the 9900k back in the day.  For an incremental change in the technology there was only an incremental if at all noticeable change in the performance.

8 hours ago, Dyno152 said:

Did you OC your 12900K? 13900K? I’m in a similar situation with my 12900K (5.2ghz) and wondering if I need to pull the trigger on the 13900k. 

I did mess around a bit trying to overclock, but with the e and p cores it's not as easy as back in the day. I tried with hyperthreading off as this used to get me better performance than with it on. I can't explain it (maybe just the overall higher clock speed?). I have not touched anything with the 13900k. It just worked. If I had known how significant a difference it is I would have bought it day one. 

 

Edited January 6, 20233 yr by Evan

7 hours ago, jlohrenz said:

Thats really interesting.  I've been reading a lot of reviews and comparisons between the 12900k and the 13900k and chose to get the 12900 here last month because it was priced significantly lower at the time.  Did you graph out your processor utilization to determine if it was in fact the bottleneck causing the issue? What optimizations if any were done?  There are so many variables that could play into this.  It seems similar to the 8700k vs the 9900k back in the day.  For an incremental change in the technology there was only an incremental if at all noticeable change in the performance.

There is nothing scientific about what I've done. I didn't look much outside of running process lasso (which I don't even do anymore with the 13900k). I assumed the 12900k was bottlenecking my 3090. It seems like it was indeed (again, not scientific).

On 12/29/2022 at 6:52 PM, joemiller said:

Hey guys,

For those of you who have an Intel 13900k, I am thinking of getting that processor . What are your thoughts? Is it a great choice for MSFS?
And, can it be overclocked?  How far did you overclock it ? 

"Intel 13900k, I am thinking of getting that processor . What are your thoughts? Is it a great choice for MSFS?"

no, it is using old 10 nm technology. as of February, there will be better options with AMD's new Ryzen 9 7000x3D CPU's.

Edited January 6, 20233 yr by turbomax

On 12/31/2022 at 2:59 PM, spitzer45 said:

If you will buy your new cpu only for msfs 2020 then you can consider amd 5800x3d. It gives nearly identical performance to 13900k for msfs 2020.

I am considering the new 7950x3D, not identical but instead ca. 10-15% higher performance than 13900K.

19 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I am considering the new 7950x3D, not identical but instead ca. 10-15% higher performance than 13900K.

We can have a performance showdown when we've both completed our new system builds! 13900K singled threaded performance versus massive L3 cache on the 7950x3D. 😃

nothing wrong with your 13900K provided you have great cooling, watch your CPU temps and make sure it never throttles down. I just hate the idea of 10nm running at 5.8 GHz and slurping 335 watts.

"a performance showdown ..... 13900K singled threaded performance versus massive L3 cache on the 7950x3D"

absolutely, every one is waiting for the first benchmarks to come in. this will be the dominating topic for the next weeks on all benchmark sites.

just checked my crystal ball and to quote my other post:

"according to AMD the 7800x3D is 25% faster than the 5800x3D (which was only 3 fps lower= 5%  than the i9-13900Kl), so the 7950x3D should run MSFS easily ca. 10-12 fps faster than the 13900K @4K, at significantly lower power/heat."

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by turbomax

35 minutes ago, turbomax said:

nothing wrong with your 13900K provided you have great cooling, watch your CPU temps and make sure it never throttles down. I just hate the idea of 10nm running at 5.8 GHz and slurping 335 watts

Absolutely CPU cooling was highest priority in my design. Further, these high wattage result when all cores are running full throttle. This is not the profile for MSFS. Turbo maxing a single 13900K core like MSFS does has a much lower power draw.

14 hours ago, odourboy said:

Absolutely CPU cooling was highest priority in my design. Further, these high wattage result when all cores are running full throttle. This is not the profile for MSFS. Turbo maxing a single 13900K core like MSFS does has a much lower power draw.

What AIO or cooler are you going to run with your build in progress?

Edited January 7, 20233 yr by Wise87

In running a kraken z73 with no thermal issues on the 13900k.