In 2023 I don't think wanting and asking for operable doors on on the default MSFS aircraft is too far out.

It should have been standard, and yes it's a big deal for some. 

Besides that the default aircraft visuals look great, and after the AAU1 update hopefully default planes are more enjoyable to where folks will no longer immediately skip right over them for 3rd party aircraft.

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by blueshark747

21 hours ago, captain420 said:

Which one is easier to fly and more study level?

As for operations I don't think there's anything easier to fly than the H-Jet. It even manages the lights for you automatically. Also it's probably more "study level" since the TBM is still a default aircraft (even though massively improved lately).

I really like the TBM 930 but like the HJET  a bit more.  You really cant go wrong with either.

AAU 1 will be icing on the cake for both planes.

sp

4 hours ago, mholden020 said:

The only thing that stuck out to me immediately is the Honda has a semi-auto-throttle which can be quite nice for long cruises. 

The latest version, 1.07, has a fully integrated autothrottle, and a host of G3000 VNAV improvements to enjoy while waiting for the AAU, especially if you have not joined that beta.

23 hours ago, captain420 said:

Which one is easier to fly and more study level?

A bit of advice if you do grab the HJet.

Try to conduct a couple windy inland/longer runway/ landings before jumping into island hopping with this beast. It's very fast and things happen and move at a very quick pace your last 1000 feet on final before touchdown.

My first flight in the HJet was Barbados (TBPB) to Canouan (TVSC) and I went in a little over confident and things got really scary on that final approach with shark infested water on both ends of the runway.😅

Maintain firm control of the nose at all times until all wheels are planted on the runway in fast wind conditions, the HJet has it's own unique character and handling on takeoffs and landings, that's a little more aggressive than the Cirrus SF50, Citation CJ4 or 510 Mustang.

 

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by blueshark747

7 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Study Level Lol the term is overly used in flight sim, just stop it.

No aircraft in any non commercial flight simulator is study level. Its just a marketing scam. Yeah sure you get very high Standard aircraft systems such as PMDG and Fenix but they will never be true study level, only a Level D simulator will do it. 

Study level means not related to a computer flight simulator IMO.

sp

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by Sky_Pilot071

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

The latest version, 1.07, has a fully integrated autothrottle, and a host of G3000 VNAV improvements to enjoy while waiting for the AAU, especially if you have not joined that beta.

Well dang!  I haven't had FS running for a few weeks (new computer build and re-doing my office), so that's awesome to hear 🙂

1 hour ago, mholden020 said:

Well dang!  I haven't had FS running for a few weeks (new computer build and re-doing my office), so that's awesome to hear 🙂

Yeah with the latest update...they added a button on the "FMC" to turn the plane into an Elite II version...looks the same visually, but it has an increased range and the full autothrottle, and fully functioning VNAV with TOC and TOD calculations. It's like a whole new model...for free!  I think its one of the best payware aircraft out there!

1 hour ago, Steve Dra said:

Yeah with the latest update...they added a button on the "FMC" to turn the plane into an Elite II version...looks the same visually, but it has an increased range and the full autothrottle, and fully functioning VNAV with TOC and TOD calculations. It's like a whole new model...for free!  I think its one of the best payware aircraft out there!

That's awesome, thanks guys!  I'll have to try that tomorrow for sure

On 1/12/2023 at 5:57 AM, ryanbatc said:

They're both fairly simple to fly....I don't mean that in a negative way.  The g3000 is fairly intuitive and they both hand fly well.  The HDJT is only a little faster hehe.  HDJT is technically more in depth imo.  

Also I think they are integrating the new AAU G3000 right now for the HDJT.  The TBM already has integration if you're in the AAU1 beta.

The HDJT is well worth the 25 USD.  

I agree and this one (HDJET) has after years revoked my paint brush passion too, Marwan did a great job...
Hence I'm after AAU update and decades of mostly airliners converted to the GA side off the stuff.

 

15 hours ago, jason74 said:

No aircraft in any non commercial flight simulator is study level. Its just a marketing scam. Yeah sure you get very high Standard aircraft systems such as PMDG and Fenix but they will never be true study level, only a Level D simulator will do it. 

This is not correct statement! Study level can be defined differently. There are a lot of app and software that can qualify as study level simulation. Simulator itself doesn't need to level D. I've use FAA approved sim that were not level D! Another example, GTN750 Garmin or IFD550  Avidyne apps can   be considered as study level and used for training or familiarization! 

2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Study level can be defined differently.

Indeed, but I think the basic point is that the way it's over-used in flight sim marketing reduces it to an absurd, meaningless term that's more useful for elitist gate keeping ("I only bother with STUDY LEVEL planes!") than actually describing capabilities.   If you can log actual training time with it, it's study level.  If you can't it's not, and calling it such is silly.

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by DeepestRed

27 minutes ago, DeepestRed said:

Indeed, but I think the basic point is that the way it's over-used in flight sim marketing reduces it to an absurd, meaningless term that's more useful for elitist gate keeping ("I only bother with STUDY LEVEL planes!") than actually describing capabilities.   If you can log actual training time with it, it's study level.  If you can't it's not, and calling it such is silly.

Here is scenario for you. You purchased avidyne IFD550 unit and installed in your airplane. You took WINGS webinar on how to use new GPS unit, you also download avidyne training app to get familiar with functionality, setting up approaches and etc. Is avidyne training app study level? Yes. Can you log training time you spend researching it? No ! Is study avidyne training app  essential for actually using it in IMC. Obsoletely yes!  In fact, any training add can be consider "study level" as long as contribute for training or safety.

Now! An expression "simulator" presumes that you can log time for proficiency or toward certificate ( it doesn't have to be Level D by the way). In this sense,  neither X-plane nor MSFS or P3D out of the box can be considered as simulators! Yet they can be used as "training aid" and in some respect as "study level". Because  just like avidyne training app if used correctly can contribute for trainings or proficiency! 

16 hours ago, jason74 said:

No aircraft in any non commercial flight simulator is study level. Its just a marketing scam. Yeah sure you get very high Standard aircraft systems such as PMDG and Fenix but they will never be true study level, only a Level D simulator will do it. 

Oh just stop.