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What would be the best option for MSFS?

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Hey all! 

Looking to upgrade my PC. I am looking at it with 2 options. I would love your thoughts on which you think will help me gain the most performance. 

 

Option 1

Complete new build with the following parts below. I would keep my 3080 for now and upgrade later by the end of the year with a 4080. 

Total cost = ~$1,650

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Option 2

Keep my current build and just buy a 4080 and build a new PC towards the end of the year. 

Total cost = ~$1,750

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Note that I am running a 4k display 🙂

 

Thanks for your input!

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Getting just a 4080 with frame gen will be a game changer.  I'd have at least a 750w PSU though not sure what you have.

Also I'd recommend a gsysnc compatible monitor 

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I would wait a very short while for AMD's 7000 series 3d chip to arrive and couple that with a 4000 series Nvidia GPU. That combo will be very interesting for flight sim.

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If you are good with waiting, its always better to "pull the trigger" as late as possible to take advantage of the latest and greatest options, as well as the reduced prices on prior options (depends on your budget). I waited 7+ years and just built a PC with "the best" of everything available right now, so now I'm going to see how long I can keep the new system 🙂

Option 1, but I think you're wasting money on an i9 CPU rather than an i7. Price difference (right now) for what you're getting doesn't make sense. My opinion.

I'm pricing a motherboard, cpu and ddr5 ram but waiting until the new AMD chips hit the market. Looking for a price war or at least a skirmish. Then a 4080 later when prices settle out in the graphics market.

Whatever you choose have fun buying it and all that. I use Pcpartpicker.com to help pick my pc parts.

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Pick up the 4080 that is by far where the biggest improvement will come from, is simple, will solve VRAM and frame rate issues, unless it doesn't fit in your case necessitating rebuild of sorts anyway.  Your CPU is not that less capable than the CPU you're looking at for Option 1, and high end memory is hardly measurable as to its performance impact.

 

Edited by Noel

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1 hour ago, Noel said:

Pick up the 4080 that is by far where the biggest improvement will come from, is simple, will solve VRAM and frame rate issues, unless it doesn't fit in your case necessitating rebuild of sorts anyway.  Your CPU is not that less capable than the CPU you're looking at for Option 1, and high end memory is hardly measurable as to its performance impact.

 

I actually reccomend to always pair latest gpu with latest cpu, because the old one he have will not run the 4080 to its full potential... 

Be aware there may still be Samsung 980 pro's with bad firmware out there. The problematic firmware version is 3B2QGXA7, those drives can die quite fast.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Vainte said:

Be aware there may still be Samsung 980 pro's with bad firmware out there. The problematic firmware version is 3B2QGXA7, those drives can die quite fast.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/

 

 

 

thanks!

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There was recently a big arcticle about benchmarking MSFS with current gen GPU and CPU's in the german magazine PCGameshardware.

 

Here it is:

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-Spiel-15259/Specials/Benchmark-2023-CPU-GPU-1411823/

 

You can translate it into whatever language you speak.

The results are totally dependant on what kind of resolution you aim to play at.

But the best CPU by a longshot if you consider FPS per Watts as well is the Ryzen 7 5800XD

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The prices right now are just too high for a 4080...

If I upgraded my i9-9900k to an i9-1300k and kept my 3080 for now would I be able to tell a difference in performance? In 4k right now I am always limited by main thread...

In flight - Locked at 40

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1 hour ago, iFlySimX said:

The prices right now are just too high for a 4080...

If I upgraded my i9-9900k to an i9-1300k and kept my 3080 for now would I be able to tell a difference in performance? In 4k right now I am always limited by main thread...

In flight - Locked at 40

Screenshot-2023-03-03-125839.png

I'm in the same boat - have i9-9900k with a 4090.  I'm getting 60+ FPS without any AI traffic  and 7-10 frames lost with AI traffic.  Stutter comes and goes but completely happy with how things are performing.  I'm holding off on the CPU upgrade for now.   I believe we would see performance increases but enough to warrant the extra cash ?

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19 minutes ago, Tony P said:

I'm in the same boat - have i9-9900k with a 4090.  I'm getting 60+ FPS without any AI traffic  and 7-10 frames lost with AI traffic.  Stutter comes and goes but completely happy with how things are performing.  I'm holding off on the CPU upgrade for now.   I believe we would see performance increases but enough to warrant the extra cash ?

Do you get stutters at all? Also do you run 4k?

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Yes, I run 4k - definitely experience a stutter or two on the ground while turning ( not all the time )  and sometimes on approach I'll see it - but honestly not enough for me to warrant the upgrade.  There is a fine balance of PC and Game settings that greatly impact the sim.  

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56 minutes ago, Tony P said:

Yes, I run 4k - definitely experience a stutter or two on the ground while turning ( not all the time )  and sometimes on approach I'll see it - but honestly not enough for me to warrant the upgrade.  There is a fine balance of PC and Game settings that greatly impact the sim.  

Do you lock your frames? Any specific setting/LOD that you use?

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