What Does MSFS Do Best?

[Swe_Richard 1,175]

5 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

In what way is XP12 a no brainier? What are the advantages over MS2020? I'm guessing the flight model? But what else unless we are meant to feel sorry for Meyer and his small team?

What was it that was so hard to grasp in my comment you quoted? 

If MSFS would close shop, where would you go? Were you just reacting to my final sentence while not reading the preceding ones? Did you interpret my 'supporting XP is a no-brainer' as a comment to MSFSs inferiority? If so, please read the first comment I made in the thread

Help me out here, because your comment make no sense in the context of my first statement in the thread.

 

[turbomax 3,302]

2 hours ago, The Flight Level said:

I often wonder whether Bruce Artwick surfs these forums?

no, he doesn't.

[Floaty Potato 22]

2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

no, he doesn't.

How do you know I'm not Bruce Artwick disguised as a humble manatee? 

[abrams_tank 7,467]

18 minutes ago, turbomax said:

there is indeed a market, as hundreds of other flight simulator training companies are actively involved there, it is just not Microsoft's strategy to go after niche markets.

😊

I think Microsoft will go after the commercial market at some point with the MSFS engine.  Notice I said "MSFS engine" which doesn't necessarily mean MSFS.  I am pretty sure Microsoft will use the MSFS engine to go after the commercial market, at some point in the future.

If anything, I feel that we are helping Microsoft to test and improve the MSFS engine, so that when Microsoft feels the MSFS engine is advanced and mature enough, they will probably attempt to push into the commercial market down the road.

Edited May 17, 2023 by abrams_tank

[Bobsk8 12,843]

4 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I think Microsoft will go after the commercial market at some point with the MSFS engine.  Notice I said "MSFS engine" which doesn't necessarily mean MSFS.  I am pretty sure Microsoft will use the MSFS engine to go after the commercial market, at some point in the future.

If anything, I feel that we are helping Microsoft to test and improve the MSFS engine, so that when Microsoft feels the MSFS engine is advanced and mature enough, they will probably attempt to push into the commercial market down the road.

It is already leaps and bounds ahead of other sims for training VFR navigation. I can find my way around towns that I know, in MSFS, and could never do that in any other sim that I know of. 

[jarmstro 2,405]

8 minutes ago, Swe_Richard said:

What was it that was so hard to grasp in my comment you quoted? 

If MSFS would close shop, where would you go? Were you just reacting to my final sentence while not reading the preceding ones? Did you interpret my 'supporting XP is a no-brainer' as a comment to MSFSs inferiority? If so, please read the first comment I made in the thread

Help me out here, because your comment make no sense in the context of my first statement in the thread.

 

You said supporting XP is a no brainier. I asked why should I support XP? Meyer sat back fat and coined in, refusing to devote sufficient resources to XP until he was usurped to his surprise. Now it's too little too late. I will not support a cult.

[flying_carpet 657]

2 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

... iniBuilds themselves have said how their A310 flight model/dynamics are at par with their XP version, and that's noteable since it's the only aircraft I know of written by a reputable developer for both sims ...

Marketing gibberish. They have to say that, otherwise some people might get upset. The truth was unfold in a German flight sim magazine, namely the MSFS version is not on par with the XP version.

[The Flight Level 2,117]

Oh, oh ... a new arrival of aviation fuel! 😉

[lwt1971 7,456]

3 minutes ago, flying_carpet said:

Marketing gibberish. They have to say that, otherwise some people might get upset. The truth was unfold in a German flight sim magazine, namely the MSFS version is not on par with the XP version.

Yup, that's what I'd expect you to say, and curious you're keenly monitoring these MSFS threads 🙂 ... The truth is this daft talking point about MSFS flight dynamics is falling flat on its face as MSFS progresses along and more and more deeply simulated aircraft keep coming out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

[flying_carpet 657]

1 hour ago, Floaty Potato said:

I have exactly zero hours flying real aircraft, but I can tell you with 100% confidence that they were lying!

Who ... was lying? iniBuilds or the magazine?

So, if I read the statements from an addon-producer, who wants to sell products for a certain platform or someone with "zero hours flying real aircraft" on the one hand, and from an independent specialist magazine on the other - I know whom I would trust more. But that's only me 😉.

[The Flight Level 2,117]

Can we have a reference link to this magazine article?

[Bert Pieke 7,590]

6 minutes ago, The Flight Level said:

Can we have a reference link to this magazine article?

Does it actually matter?  There are tons of real world pilots attesting to the quality of MSFS, as well as XPlane..

One article is not going to change that 🙂

[Floaty Potato 22]

6 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Does it actually matter?  There are tons of real world pilots attesting to the quality of MSFS, as well as XPlane..

One article is not going to change that 🙂

Agreed, my responses to Flying Carpet were trying to signal the seriousness with which we should take these debates (which truly don't have a "right" answer), but that's just my general opinion.

[The Flight Level 2,117]

15 minutes ago, Floaty Potato said:

Agreed, my responses to Flying Carpet were trying to signal the seriousness with which we should take these debates (which truly don't have a "right" answer), but that's just my general opinion.

Quite true Bert and Floaty! I asked more out of curiosity to see the type of content in this magazine. Certainly, one opinion is not going to turn the tide. This forum is heavy on blank statements within giving source info (if you know what I mean).

[Floaty Potato 22]

 

1 minute ago, The Flight Level said:

Quite true Bert and Floaty! I asked more out of curiosity to see the type of content in this magazine. Certainly, one opinion is not going to turn the tide. This forum is heavy on blank statements within giving source info (if you know what I mean).

No worries, I can appreciate the sentiment. I was warned off of being too snarky, anyway (flying_carpet was clearly here for constructive debate and I ruined that with my terrible sense of humor), so your mature response is likely much preferred by the community 😄 I do actually find it interesting to read how professional pilots view the flight dynamics (and other elements) in the various sims.