I just built a rig (7800x3d, 4090, 64GB RAM) and currently in the tweaking process at the OS level prior to in-game optimizations.  Per title, I'm looking for anyone that's tried the Win 10 debloater:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhY3Y39xeEg

Ideally looking to create a most basic install to eliminate any hiccups from telemetry TSRs, etc... and increase system reliability.  BUT...  I don't want to shoot myself in the foot and delete something Win 10 requires to interface to FS2020.  Does anyone here have any experience with this and knowing what should be "left behind" to ensure nothing gets "broken".  Of course, a restore point will be created.

 

 

I am not an expert but i'd say with that system you would not need any of those snakeoils. Just install the sim and enjoy flying.

Just my two cents: Don't do it.

LOL, I figured there would be at least one comment like yours.  I'm not saying that's a bad thing.  I'm an engineer...  I get it.  But...  On the flip side, engineers enjoy tweaking and I don't want to leave any performance on the table.  I don't expect the high end FPS on a rig like this to be affected much, but the theoretical 1% lows should go way up.  This is a science experiment of sorts with no regrets other than if something goes south and I wipeout something that a flight sim (made by an OS company) needs to function.  If anyone is going to tie OS bloatware into a sim it would be Microsoft.  Hopefully in that off chance a restore point comes to the rescue.

Looking for any folks out there who've tried the Win 10 debloat successfully.

Do you lack a sense of adventure, or do you want someone else to risk damaging their installation
on your behalf, or are you just satisfying a need to tell the world about your new computer?
I would agree with your last correspondent's snake oil remark and my suggestion would be to just
use your very powerful and expensive "rig" for the purpose that you built it.
Just my two pence: Don't do it.

14 minutes ago, Cavemanhead said:

LOL, I figured there would be at least one comment like yours.  I'm not saying that's a bad thing.  I'm an engineer...  I get it.  But...  On the flip side, engineers enjoy tweaking and I don't want to leave any performance on the table.  I don't expect the high end FPS on a rig like this to be affected much, but the theoretical 1% lows should go way up.  This is a science experiment of sorts with no regrets other than if something goes south and I wipeout something that a flight sim (made by an OS company) needs to function.  If anyone is going to tie OS bloatware into a sim it would be Microsoft.  Hopefully in that off chance a restore point comes to the rescue.

Looking for any folks out there who've tried the Win 10 debloat successfully.

So if you're an engineer and are up to a scientific experiment why don't you just do it and tell the world about the results? 

I installed Windows 10 LTSC. Different class to anything else as I only use my pc for MSFS.

 

just be weary as I found with debloaters they can cause CTD’s with MSFS, source of it is unknown

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The only way you'd see any benefits is if you were running an underpowered machine. None of this stuff really cuts into CPU time. Personally I'm running Windows 11 Ghost Spectre, an extremely cut down Windows version where almost everything unnecessary has been stripped out. Though that's mainly because I absolutely cannot stand Windows bloat, it annoys me to no end.

3 hours ago, Sethos said:

The only way you'd see any benefits is if you were running an underpowered machine. None of this stuff really cuts into CPU time. Personally I'm running Windows 11 Ghost Spectre, an extremely cut down Windows version where almost everything unnecessary has been stripped out. Though that's mainly because I absolutely cannot stand Windows bloat, it annoys me to no end.

Thanks for the heads-up😉

I would never trust some random 3rd party program to do something like this.  Some of what people call "bloat" is actually security.  So, you should know what you're turning off.  There's a popular Win 11 tweak that helps performance quite a bit, but you want to make sure you know that you are turning off some security.  Many of us choose to take on that risk, but you should look into it yourself and make that determination.  If you want to tweak, learn it yourself.  There's so much "snake oil" out there. 

Also, back in the days of FSX, we were stuck running 20fps into busy airports at times, so every frame was precious.  Today with 2020?  I honestly spend very little time tweaking Windows.  With a monster PC, you should be flying and not tweaking. 

I would not install anything unless it came from a trusted source even then I`m skeptical. Warings have been going around about Regcleaner software installing malware.

7 hours ago, Sethos said:

Personally I'm running Windows 11 Ghost Spectre

I love the idea behind this, but I wouldn’t trust a third party install. In addition to removing bloat, who knows what they stitched in. 

2 minutes ago, Greggy_D said:

I love the idea behind this, but I wouldn’t trust a third party install. In addition to removing bloat, who knows what they stitched in. 

Absolutely, a valid concern but that concern could be levied towards lot of closed-source software that people happily execute on their computers without any regard to what it does in the background. We've even got a very popular MSFS application from a Chinese guy that even goes in and changes your Windows HOST file and few other things. He can decide to go rogue one day and cause a lot of issues for unsuspecting users. So it's all a bit of a gamble, if these people want to risk their reputation for a bit of profit or otherwise. But absolutely understand why people wouldn't use an OS like that, I wouldn't even recommend it to most users, especially because it strips away a lot of layers of functionality and for less tech savvy users; security.

Sometimes you just put a lot of eggs in a basket to avoid other things that bother you. I absolutely detest Windows in its stock version.

For better peace of mind, I simply try to avoid having an operating system installed, if I can.

However, I haven't had total succes with that endeavour.

Rather than banking on a restore point, you'd be much better-served to build your test config and make a complete system backup at that point--recovering from a problem is then as simple as restoring the saved image, which will completely eliminate any unhappy changes you made during your tweaking journey.

That said, with 8 cores, the odds of an OS background process getting in the way of the sim in any meaningful way are pretty small, and without some really deep understanding of the intracacies of the interconnected processes you'd be messing with, it's a drill likely to be fraught with risk--especially if you conclude that you've made some improvement only to find out later after building atop it that those changes actually boogered your system in some subtle way.

There are trustworthy tools to do the unbloating yourself instead of using an already tampered with installation.

Use either NTlite or MSMG toolkit.

Of course you want to have your OS running as effieicent as possible without any unneccessay bloat, especially for demanding applications like MSFS.

Anyone who thinks otherwise have a thing or two to learn.

Oh, and as mentioned, an LTSC version is also a nice option.

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