I'm always interested to see these threads.  What are known to be the CPU intensive graphic settings these days?  Obviously LODs.  But I'm curious if I have any other settings I should consider giving a test slightly lower.  I only fly in/out of payware airports.  So of course the bigger and busier airports are the ones that hit me the hardest.  Typically using FG I have great performance that often does not flinch.  However every now and then a payware airport combined with heavy vatsim traffic can cause a hiccup here and there.  So I'm looking to address by lowering a few CPU related settings. 

1 hour ago, micstatic said:

So I'm looking to address by lowering a few CPU related settings. 

I found this guide to be very usefull because it shows which setting are gpu/cpu intensive.  Detailed descriptions and screenshots of each setting.

5 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Interesting.  As I said, I have a steady 60fps which I am perceiving as very smooth. However, I downloaded the tool you showed in the image you posted and got very different results that shows room for improvement.

As an initial run through I recorded a flight at my steady 60fps, then a flight with the fps restricted to 30. I expected the graphs/pie charts with the lower fps to show completely smooth, but they were the same!

I've posted about this many times as I became a believer rather quickly when I took the effort last November to compare all setup methods people will typically use including various forums of locks and syncs and only one method consistently delivers and that is mentioned in my signature.  CapFrameX is a fabulous way to objectify one's perceptions of smooth animation.  My sense is that the higher the frame rate the less poorer FTV matters, so my method is especially valuable for people w/o the latest hardware to get fabulously smooth animation.  By not maxing out frame rate (and therefore working CPU and GPU to the max) there is headroom to cope with transient spikes in demand.  Very often I have zero stutters upon approach into complex terminals in the more demanding planes though in the super demanding scenarios I may move the frame lock down to 30.  As I mentioned 33 is kind of a nice minimum to aim for which is my default.  My method also allows one to change the lock on the fly which is helpful as well.

On 8/2/2023 at 12:39 PM, Virtual-Chris said:

It’s a separate download and install. Google DLSS DLL update for more. If you have access to the DLLs in your MSFS folder get the DLSS Swapper app to make it a two click job. 

searching this brings up a ton of different links.  Is there an "official" (i.e. known/safe) link to this?

 

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I've posted about this many times as I became a believer rather quickly when I took the effort last November to compare all setup methods people will typically use including various forums of locks and syncs and only one method consistently delivers and that is mentioned in my signature.  CapFrameX is a fabulous way to objectify one's perceptions of smooth animation.

I would be very interested in the techniques you used.  A steady 60fps feels great, but I am still getting stutters at the wrong moments - on finals for example.  Outside these stutters I thought it was completely smooth, but CapFrameX showed that is not the case!  Smoothness is the key to make the aircraft feel responsive and make it feel like it is 'floating' in air.  My Frame times vary a lot!

You mention Rivertuner as the best way to limit fps, so I'll download that.  Could you link to your threads about this or explain the steps required / what to change When CapFrameX is reporting varying frametimes?

I used to put up with lower fps and odd stutters to get the best graphics fidelity I could, but now I more interested in responsiveness and smoothness to the flying.  I have found settings can be lowered without losing great looking graphics, but if I can increase smoothness and further reduce stutters, I want to give it a go.

10 minutes ago, MNORM said:

searching this brings up a ton of different links.  Is there an "official" (i.e. known/safe) link to this?

 

Thanks!

https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper/releases

2 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper/releases

Thank you!

I’m on new rig 7800X3D + 4090 coming from i7 4790k + 1070.  I’ve been knee deep in low settings for years…..let me tell you I got sliders RIGHT and UP blasting FG out my 4k screen and it’s gorgeous. 😂😂😂

I've basically set everything on 1 level below ultra since launch.  The only thing I have turned up is the clouds, everything else is just "high".  I get fps well above 60+ on my older system (granted I only fly GA planes, none of the complex airliners that are much more taxing).  While I won't win any screenshot competitions, the sim still looks amazing. 

I spend zero time tweaking and I've never been happier.  I remember the pain of trying to get 30fps in FSX.  I can never go back to that.  Now that we've got the A2A Comanche, I've got to enjoy that flight model at 60+ frames. 

3 minutes ago, kerosene31 said:

I remember the pain of trying to get 30fps in FSX. 

Indeed. You could give me the smoothest experience ever and I still wouldn't accept anything near 30 again, yuck.

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper/releases

Installed the latest version.  Switched to DLSS/Quality in MSFS....not seeing any difference in the blurry panel or an increase in FPS.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong or my RTX3070 is the issue.

 

I don't see an option within the MSFS graphics page to incorporate DLAA with DLSS.  I was under the impression this worked with all RTX cards...I'm feeling a bit lost here, lol.

Now I'm getting 1/2 the FPS in TAA...ugh.  I think I royally screwed something up.

Edited August 4, 20232 yr by MNORM

It works!  SVGA (800 x 600) LOD down 1 - I'm getting over 900 frames per second on my external FPS counter!   I had to turn AI traffic off though.
And if I stand well back from the screen and squint, it looks quite natural.  

Actually, @MrBitstFlyer - thanks for the article and links.  I am particularly interested in what affects the CPU the most, as it is the only area where struggling at the moment.

 

Edited August 4, 20232 yr by bobcat999

7 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

 

Nobody says: the game was rubbish, but the graphics looked great!

 

Ghost Recon Breakpoint would like a word 😝

5 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I found this guide to be very usefull because it shows which setting are gpu/cpu intensive.  Detailed descriptions and screenshots of each setting.

Thanks for posting that.  Later I will go thru that and see if I can optimize a bit.

I know I'm running a 150 TLOD right now, but that guide recommends 100.  Actually in looking at their pics, 100 does look all right.  Typically with any realistic visibility you can't see much farther anyway. 

Do any of you run lower settings for airliners and IFR flights vs VFR?  

It seems like a good trade-off... lower exterior visuals for IFR flights with more complex airliners around bigger cities and busier airports, and then ramp up the visual quality when flying simpler, smaller VFR aircraft.