August 2, 20232 yr There had been a couple of threads months ago on this and interesting posts on the Comanche 1.1 thread but it bears multiple topics now. I have a fairly good idea of what a 750 is, had one in P3D, but less on how the two products compare. I installed the free PMS version, read the two manuals and watched a couple of You Tube which were very moderately informative. I suppose that very few of you have both but you can see what is possibly missing in yours. I am now focusing on two specific questions : 1/ How good, complete is the Utilities page, specially VNAV, Trip Planning, Fuel planning, DALT/TAS Winds functionalities. 2/ the Data base The PMS uses Asobo's. It thus has the myriad of airfields the sim has. The TDS Sim uses the Garmin which is supposedly more limited (it was in P3D). I installed the standalone Trainer and did a rapid check on two improbable iFR flights (as often are mine) from Mae Hong Son VTCH in Thailand to Naypiytaw VYNT in Myanmar, another from WAEE Gebe to Babullah WAEE (great approach btw if you like volcanoes) in Indonesia. Both are in the Garmin trainer with their approach procedures. But do any of you had an airport missing in the TDS Sim ? Any other features is, of course, open to discussion (TAWS etc.). I don't own Navigraph so I didn't raise this issue. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
August 2, 20232 yr The PMS750 site has a large list of "extras" for the premium/lifetime version. It's what I have since I fly everywhere. Never had a missing airport in the PMS750 version. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
August 2, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: The PMS750 site has a large list of "extras" for the premium/lifetime version. It's what I have since I fly everywhere. Never had a missing airport in the PMS750 version. That is the biggest advantage of the PMS 750 paid version, you get all the airports in MSFS regardless of size, visual approach guidance, great tech support from the developer, and simbrief compatible. https://pms50.com/msfs/downloads/gtn750-premium/ In addition with the PMS you get WTT integration for a very large number of aircraft. Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Bobsk8
August 2, 20232 yr Author 11 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: The PMS750 site has a large list of "extras" for the premium/lifetime version. It's what I have since I fly everywhere. Never had a missing airport in the PMS750 version. The extras are the normal 750 functionalities which are deactivated in the free version. If any of the two would miss an airport that would be the TDS per construction. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
August 2, 20232 yr I've not come across an airfield yet which isn't there with TDS. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
August 2, 20232 yr Author 7 minutes ago, St Mawgan said: I've not come across an airfield yet which isn't there with TDS. Do you use the calculator functions in the utilities page of the TDS ? Do they work Ok? Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
August 2, 20232 yr The PMS displays MSFS flightplans created on the MSFS Worldmap directly, even without having to save them. The TDS can't do that, you rather have to save and convert them to load them into TDS. This may not be an issue for most of you creating their flightplans using SimBrief or which ever external planner, but for me it's quite essential. That's one reason why I only use the PMS (paid) those days, while I own both. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
August 2, 20232 yr I don't have the PMS50 version, but I know TDS depends on navigation cycle data that is usually old and updated at long intervals. How does PMS50 fair with this issue? I see the site mentions a navigraph subscription. Rick D http://g5flyer.tumblr.com/
August 2, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, G550flyer said: I don't have the PMS50 version, but I know TDS depends on navigation cycle data that is usually old and updated at long intervals. How does PMS50 fair with this issue? I see the site mentions a navigraph subscription. PMS50 uses the free navdata from the sim or the Navigraph navdata if you use the paid version and have a Navigraph subscription. It also displays the Navigraph charts on the device with the aircraft position on the charts. Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Alvega Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
August 2, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Dominique_K said: Do you use the calculator functions in the utilities page of the TDS ? Do they work Ok? No, I don't use them. Edited August 2, 20232 yr by St Mawgan 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
August 2, 20232 yr If you use Simbrief, it will allow to transfer the plan directly into the TDS FP folder and the same FP will be available in the GPS, so it does work very well, you dont need to convert the plan the Simbrief downloader will do it for you. I have been using the TDS worldwide since release and have yet to see any airport missing. All functionalities are there and working as advertised. The only drawback compared to the PMS is the Garmin database that is generally behind by at least six months, but since you are not interested by this aspect (you are not a Navigraph user anyway) the TDS is fine and far less expensive than the PMS. Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Bernard Ducret Bernard CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2,
August 2, 20232 yr I have both but prefer the PMS for the up to date database. I recently planned a VFR flight in the USA where a few waypoints on my route were not available in the TDS 750, but all were there in the PMS 750 (planned the flight with Garmin Pilot). CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 2, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, Bernard Ducret said: If you use Simbrief, it will allow to transfer the plan directly into the TDS FP folder and the same FP will be available in the GPS, so it does work very well, you dont need to convert the plan the Simbrief downloader will do it for you. Sure, that's it if you use Simbrief. However, not everyone does this, and if you just plan your flight on the MSFS World Map, it doesn't transfer to the TDS directly, albeit the plan can be saved and converted to the TDS format (e.g. using Little Navmap, if memory saves me right). Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
August 2, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: I have both but prefer the PMS for the up to date database. I recently planned a VFR flight in the USA where a few waypoints on my route were not available in the TDS 750, but all were there in the PMS 750 (planned the flight with Garmin Pilot). I read a post awhile back on the FS Forum where someone claimed that the current Garmin Trainer data base hadn't been updated in almost 2 years.
August 2, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I read a post awhile back on the FS Forum where someone claimed that the current Garmin Trainer data base hadn't been updated in almost 2 years. Current data was just updated in the the past month and brings the TDS databases to Dec 2022 dataset which makes them just six months behind. Also I have never had an issue where an airport or named fix was missing. Approaches maybe, airports never. YMMV, -B
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