2 hours ago, Wise87 said:

How am I miss reading the image? It says the 380 project is for Microsoft. 

ini had initially announced the A380 for XP, before the MSFS days. Then up until today they were saying the A380 is still in the works but the target sim platforms have not been finalized. And now as we all suspected their A380 is indeed for MSFS, and MSFS alone. And it's also their own project as a payware add-on like their A300 and A350 (and unlike for-Asobo projects like the A310 and A320neo).
 

Edited December 23, 20232 yr by lwt1971

5 minutes ago, threegreen said:

However, the stance from several developers has thus far been that it's tough to impossible to make a detailed A350 because apparently Airbus keeps any documentation electronically and under wraps. So I do wonder about the simulation depth, if iniBuilds can build something deep purely out of expertise from pilots, or if they actually do have documentation. I think that's a question worth asking given the sentiment from other developers.

We'll learn the answer to that in due time, however considering the tight partnership iniBuilds has with Asobo/Microsoft and the popularity of MSFS, it would not suprise me if the big M managed to get some agreements struck and limited access granted by the big boys at Toulouse. 

3 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

 

ini had initially announced the A380 for XP, before the MSFS days. Then up until today they were saying the A380 is still in the works but the target sim platforms have not been finalized. And now as we all suspected their A380 is indeed for MSFS, and MSFS alone. And it's also their own project as a payware add-on like their A300 and A350 (and unlike for-Asobo projects like the A310 and A320neo).

Gotcha, appreciate the history on the project.

Excited for this as I've been randomly watching some amazing cockpit vids from various A350 flights in the last few weeks. It's an incredible aircraft and I'm sure they'll do a decent enough job to keep us happy.

Incidentally, I've just gone and bought KJFK off the app, it was 9 quid this morning and after the A350 announcement it bumped up to 16.99 🤐

At the speed iniBuilds works, I wouldn't be surprised to see both the A350 and A380 next year. 

50 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

How am I miss reading the image? It says the 380 project is for Microsoft. 

It says for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Not Microsoft.

16 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It says for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Not Microsoft.

Same company. smh

@Tuskin38 @Wise87 Guys, I think they mean the 350 and 380 are NOT 'commissioned products'  by MS/ASOBO.  In other words, they will be their own products designed for MSFS.

Edited December 23, 20232 yr by Jeff Nielsen

7 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

Same company. smh

The difference is "for MSFS" meaning the addon is developed for the sim platform, but "for Microsoft" would imply Microsoft being the client, like with the A310.

12 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

Same company. smh

But it completely changes the meaning of the sentence.

They're making the aircraft for MSFS, they're not making the aircraft for Microsoft.

Edited December 23, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, threegreen said:

However, the stance from several developers has thus far been that it's tough to impossible to make a detailed A350 because apparently Airbus keeps any documentation electronically and under wraps. So I do wonder about the simulation depth, if iniBuilds can build something deep purely out of expertise from pilots, or if they actually do have documentation. I think that's a question worth asking given the sentiment from other developers.

I am curious about this too. 

12 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I am curious about this too. 

If they have access to an airline, then they should be 99.9% good (good as far as info goes).  The airline should have all that.  But, even if you do have that info you have to model/code it all.  That's the big question as they are calling for 350 pilots and didn't show any other previews other than the outside.

I would love to get excited about these 2 airplanes, but given they are planning for a release inside of a year with no other details, this is a big wait and see for me. 

Even with a big dev team (and it would have to be really big), they now have 3 modern airbuses on the books for release.  The Neo, 350 and the 380.  2 of which are scheduled for this year.  All of these aircraft have some really sophisticated systems and avionics.  The NEO also has enough different features that the CEOs don't have.  Even if you're not doing failures, this is a really big push.

I wish them all the luck and am hopeful these will be good aircraft.

Edited December 23, 20232 yr by Jeff Nielsen

48 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

But it completely changes the meaning of the sentence.

They're making the aircraft for MSFS, they're not making the aircraft for Microsoft.

that is all correct.

11 minutes ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

I would love to get excited about these 2 airplanes, but given they are planning for a release inside of a year with no other details, this is a big wait and see for me. 

Even with a big dev team (and it would have to be really big), they now have 3 modern airbuses on the books for release.  The Neo, 350 and the 380.  2 of which are scheduled for this year.  All of these aircraft have some really sophisticated systems and avionics.  The NEO also has enough different features that the CEOs don't have.  Even if you're not doing failures, this is a really big push.

Ya that's a fair concern.. but keep in mind they've been working on the A380 for a while now, and they also said on discord the secret project work (i.e. A350) was started a while back (don't remember if they revealed exactly when). At least we know they're not just starting development on these or are in the initial stages of it. Also I believe the A350 borrows/shares some systems from the A380?

In any case there seems to be hope for them to do a great job on these, let's see. I'm also waiting to see how deeply simulated the A300 is to get an indication of what sort of fidelity and quality they're shooting for their MSFS payware airliners (it's looking good from all what they've revealed so far, and given what they've done for their XP A300)
 

6 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Ya that's a fair concern.. but keep in mind they've been working on the A380 for a while now, and they also said on discord the secret project work (i.e. A350) was started a while back (don't remember if they revealed exactly when). At least we know they're not just starting development on these or are in the initial stages of it. Also I believe the A350 borrows/shares some systems from the A380?

In any case there seems to be hope for them to do a great job on these, let's see. I'm also waiting to see how deeply simulated the A300 is to get an indication of what sort of fidelity and quality they're shooting for their MSFS payware airliners (it's looking good from all what they've revealed so far, and given what they've done for their XP A300)
 

Yeah, very true.  That's what I'm hoping for.  What concerned me was they're just now calling for pilots.  Hopefully that's just for testing and not for info. 

On a side note, to be fair, their OMDB is a step up from their previous sceneries.  Especially the ground (airfield lighting).  I was glad to see that.  Hopefully their other big airports will get updated.

Anyways, I'm rooting for them.  If they turn out be good, this will be a really big deal for the sim as far as payware airliners is concerned.

Edited December 23, 20232 yr by Jeff Nielsen