This thread has clearly seen a few thread drifts in its existence so I’ll add another one… How can we influence the developer of APL to remove the penalty for PAUSE? I’ve emailed him before and got a fairly … “snarky” response.

 

 

1 hour ago, KL Oo said:

This thread has clearly seen a few thread drifts in its existence so I’ll add another one… How can we influence the developer of APL to remove the penalty for PAUSE? I’ve emailed him before and got a fairly … “snarky” response.

 

 

I have about 550 hours in APL, I have never used pause once. What am I doing wrong? 😏

Nothing Bob - you’re perfect. A lot of us however don’t reach your level of excellence and have other tasks in life that prevent us sitting in front of the PC for hours on end and occasionally require us to use the pause function.

 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have about 550 hours in APL, I have never used pause once. What am I doing wrong? 😏

There are a lot of things  you do wrong  Bob ! lol You are retired, your kids are grown up, you have tons of free time, and most people don’t bug you on the phone lol

Edited January 18, 20242 yr by sd_flyer

So which app or virtual airline web is the most similar to APL with his pilot rating system and only focused on flying and not managing anything else?

6 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have about 550 hours in APL, I have never used pause once. What am I doing wrong? 😏

So in 550 hours you never had to open the menu to adjust graphics or a control button or assistance settings (which a sim update messed up) etc.?

1 hour ago, miguel370 said:

So which app or virtual airline web is the most similar to APL with his pilot rating system and only focused on flying and not managing anything else?

I think most VAs actually are like this.

10 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

But you can fly any aircraft you want in APL, for example if the airline only uses A320s you can still use the B737, the ATR or whatever for those flights if you want.

If you want to create a realistic airline experience capturing as much immersion as possible then this instantly kills all that. That's why I've changed over to the VA. You have to use the exact aircraft, down to the correct registration. I know when I fly on a route that I'm fllying the exact route on the exact aircraft that did the same IRL only a few hours before me. When searching for immersion at that level, APL just does not deliver. Especially when it's not giving me the correct flight numbers 98% of the time when using carriers in the US.

The VA has also given me more appreciation for the work livery developers do over on flightsim.to. They manage to get the exact model down to the rivets in most cases. Quite impressive so kudos to them. It's fun when you need a certain reg for a flight and you mange to find it on there.

7 minutes ago, El Diablito said:

If you want to create a realistic airline experience capturing as much immersion as possible then this instantly kills all that. That's why I've changed over to the VA. You have to use the exact aircraft, down to the correct registration. I know when I fly on a route that I'm fllying the exact route on the exact aircraft that did the same IRL only a few hours before me. When searching for immersion at that level, APL just does not deliver. Especially when it's not giving me the correct flight numbers 98% of the time when using carriers in the US.

The VA has also given me more appreciation for the work livery developers do over on flightsim.to. They manage to get the exact model down to the rivets in most cases. Quite impressive so kudos to them. It's fun when you need a certain reg for a flight and you mange to find it on there.

What VA is that that requires the exact reg? All VAs I know only require the airline's livery. I mean what do you do if that reg does not exist on flightsim.to?

51 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

What VA is that that requires the exact reg? All VAs I know only require the airline's livery. I mean what do you do if that reg does not exist on flightsim.to?

Star Alliance, whenever I book a flight it shows me the reg, luckily so far I've found every one on flightsim.to for Air New Zealand, Scoot, ANA. 

For 789 ops out of Sydney for Scoot, the only available reg on flightsim.to was 9V-OJA "Dream-Start", which as it so happens is the most flown aircraft with the company so mostly MSFS users, all the other reg types must be other sim users.

You'll always find at least one reg on flightsim.to to use and if it's not at the destination you're flying from you can just relocate it, some users create entire packs of aircraft reg, which was the case with FBW on Air New Zealand. If the reg isn't up there I'll just re-route somewhere else first in order to get where I'm going, no big deal. They say you should use the exact reg in order to maintain realism with the VA, I don't know if a note at the end of the flight briefing will get you around that as I haven't needed to do it yet.

My next flight is from WSSS to VHHH and 9V-OJA is just sitting waiting to go, then I'll be taking ANA (JA-875A) up to RJTT.

 

Edited January 18, 20242 yr by El Diablito

11 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

That's not my kind of thing. I don't want to fly a Binter Canarias ATR from EDDF to EDDH while being on Lufthansa. That just makes no sense at all for me. But it's probably a personal thing.
 

I don't really understand why you mention Binter Canarias here; you can easily find a Lufthansa livery for the ATR. But I guess you mean you don't want to fly an ATR on a route that is flown by a different aircraft IRL. So the same as:

 

1 hour ago, El Diablito said:

If you want to create a realistic airline experience capturing as much immersion as possible then this instantly kills all that. That's why I've changed over to the VA. You have to use the exact aircraft, down to the correct registration. I know when I fly on a route that I'm fllying the exact route on the exact aircraft that did the same IRL only a few hours before me. When searching for immersion at that level, APL just does not deliver. Especially when it's not giving me the correct flight numbers 98% of the time when using carriers in the US.

 

It's interesting to see how we all have our different ways to enjoy simming. I don't care which type is used for a specific route IRL, as long as my aircraft is plausible for that kind of route. I couldn't care less about flight numbers, let alone registrations. All that does not affect immersion for me in any way.

It's great we have choices so everybody could derive joy from our most versatile hobby flightsimulation the way we want. Happy landings!

 

The flight number itself doesn't really bother me in general but I like the idea of the exact bird reg and name.

The reason the flight number miffed me with APL is because I would enter the given number into Flightaware to get some additional info like gate used etc and for a Houston to Boston flight on the schedule for example I'd get Phoenix to Cabo for the given flight number. It was when I was flying with United and later found out this was caused because of their merger with Continental so I let it slide as a minor irritation. The it started happening with American, it just made me feel APL was half assing it I suppose, why were they using old flight numbers? The generator then compounded my irritation and it made it feel like they just don't care as much as they say they do. Kind of the same feeling I get when a 3rd party developer bangs out an airport for 20 euros and they put taxi lights all over the road in front of you or don't bother that much with taxi markings.

One other thing I noticed was when I was with United I applied to Turkish and American (as a Captain with rating of 99.60) and both applications were rejected, at the end of that week I was offered a job at American anyway and the week after that Turkish were on the list. Made me think something is definitely wrong with their algorithm.

I enjoyed APL and wouldn't tell anyone not to get it but it ran it's course for me.

1 hour ago, El Diablito said:

Star Alliance, whenever I book a flight it shows me the reg, luckily so far I've found every one on flightsim.to for Air New Zealand, Scoot, ANA. 

For 789 ops out of Sydney for Scoot, the only available reg on flightsim.to was 9V-OJA "Dream-Start", which as it so happens is the most flown aircraft with the company so mostly MSFS users, all the other reg types must be other sim users.

You'll always find at least one reg on flightsim.to to use and if it's not at the destination you're flying from you can just relocate it, some users create entire packs of aircraft reg, which was the case with FBW on Air New Zealand. If the reg isn't up there I'll just re-route somewhere else first in order to get where I'm going, no big deal. They say you should use the exact reg in order to maintain realism with the VA, I don't know if a note at the end of the flight briefing will get you around that as I haven't needed to do it yet.

My next flight is from WSSS to VHHH and 9V-OJA is just sitting waiting to go, then I'll be taking ANA (JA-875A) up to RJTT.

 

No, you got that wrong. You don‘t need to use the correct reg on the livery with StarAlliance. All you need is the airline‘s livery.

5 hours ago, miguel370 said:

So which app or virtual airline web is the most similar to APL with his pilot rating system and only focused on flying and not managing anything else?

https://newsky.app/home

3 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

So in 550 hours you never had to open the menu to adjust graphics or a control button or assistance settings (which a sim update messed up) etc.?

Never had to do that in the middle of a flight.