2 hours ago, spilok said:

Looks like the majority of responses to this question are what I expected when I posted this.  That's unfortunate, and I would hope that Lockheed Martin is reading this and does something about it.

The only reason P3D was a retail success prior to V6 was due to the myriad of 3rd party devs. Those guys are gone and ain’t comin’ back. Their revenue streams lie elsewhere. As well as LM.

That said, I tried installing V6 a second time. Flew for a while an eventually said, “What the **** am I doing?” and promptly went back to my easy chair, V5.4 😉

33 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

Sadly not much 3rd party support.............

Can't really say I'm surprised, esp. when even P3D users don't upgrade to the latest version of their ( beloved ? ) sim.

It appears most would rather stay with an older and non supported version whilst giving out about LM's upgrade model.

I accept that a "Catch 22" situation may exist but P3D users are doing little, if anything, to alleviate said position.

I have both V5 and V6 installed and at least 95% of my many addons work well in the latter version and because of the improvements ( some,mentioned above)

I find myself using V5 less and less, if at all these days.

46 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

There are a few issues that still need to be address (haze layers, overly aggressive impact of sunlight on terrain surfaces, night time lighting on PBR materials is wrong).

Very difficult to get right and is very subjective but is, IMO, vastly improved on previous versions. Also the enhancement in performance is extremely welcome.

If P3D users really want a bigger/brighter/newer sim. then I suspect no "backwards compatability" will exist at all, hence the excuse to not update of

'I have spent thousands on addons etc." may well be valid, but at present it holds very little water as most addons do work with V6, even if the Devs haven't

bothered to update their installers.

I firmly believe that users are guilty of putting another 'nail in the coffin' of P3D by not upgrading/supporting their own platform of choice.

8 minutes ago, Sparkrite said:

I firmly believe that users are guilty of putting another 'nail in the coffin' of P3D by not upgrading/supporting their own platform of choice.

I agree. I just don’t want to do it. Again. 🙃

31 minutes ago, newtie said:

The only reason P3D was a retail success prior to V6 was due to the myriad of 3rd party devs.

Ah, that old dilemma...... Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

what killed it for me is the extremely dark cockpit - cant find anything or read anything in the AS A320/330....If they fixed it I will update, spool it up and test but right now it's installed but collecting dust while I keep on trucking on with v5.4

Edited April 3, 20242 yr by ywg256

Would really love to go on with v6 but with all the weakness of the devs it makes no sense, sadly. Plus, I have little time at the moment even to fly with v5.4. 

But I think positive and hope for a cracking, game changing v7 (with new engine) which outpace that MSFS thing at least by usability, functionality and stability.

3 hours ago, Ronaldo1978 said:

Would really love to go on with v6 but with all the weakness of the devs it makes no sense, sadly. Plus, I have little time at the moment even to fly with v5.4. 

But I think positive and hope for a cracking, game changing v7 (with new engine) which outpace that MSFS thing at least by usability, functionality and stability.

This too, is what I hope can someday happen.  I will think "positive" with you and many others, I'm sure.  LH definitely has the where-with-all to make this happen.  I would completely support a brand new platform, and if many others would do it as well, the developers would likely follow.

I keep V6 installed just to play around and game on but 5.4 will be where I do my “serious”😎 simming. That’s where my thousands in addons reside and as far as a new P3DV7 or FS2024 or MSFS for that matter I’m too old and too retired (read that poor) to buy all the same stuff ( like PMDG birds) again . Like @Newti said I just don’t want to.

Edited April 4, 20242 yr by Patco Lch

22 hours ago, Ronaldo1978 said:

But I think positive and hope for a cracking, game changing v7 (with new engine) which outpace that MSFS thing at least by usability, functionality and stability.

Always the same story... People were waiting for the 6.0 to be a game changer. It wasn't... Now, the hopes are on a 7.0 with a new engine...

Sadly most developpers completely abandonned P3D, and I don't really trust the few that still try to tell promises (we'll have a look at P3D once our products will be available on msfs).  Do we really think that FsLabs or PMDG will return to the current P3D when their full line will be available on msfs? In 2026? 2027? Come on, let be serious!

About a 7.0, it is still rumors, we don't even know if LM will ever release a 7.0, or I will say it they would make it available for the public. My 2 cts with the 6.0 is that they don't care that much anymore about the leisure market.

P3Dv6 has been released less than a year ago. I don't think there are any "rumors" about it yet. We were all hoping for a new graphic engine for v6, and it didn't happen. I don't think LM will produce a new version of v7 so soon.

Finally, about the addon makers, I don't really like the comments that make them sound like they left the market. It's not the devs who left, it's the customers. We shouldn't forget that, nor try to make it look the other way around.

3 hours ago, sdirand said:

My 2 cts with the 6.0 is that they don't care that much anymore about the leisure market.

It would not be a stretch to say they never did.

3 hours ago, sdirand said:

Always the same story... People were waiting for the 6.0 to be a game changer. It wasn't... Now, the hopes are on a 7.0 with a new engine...

I've often wondered what people are anticipating with a 7.0 version. MSFS?

If that the case, MSFS is already available.

1 hour ago, Daube said:

t's not the devs who left, it's the customers.

It was both.

I haven't used this sim since I bought it.  I tried one flight and uninstalled it.  Moved on...and gave up on all the developers.  I did buy ActiveSky for this as it was on sale.  

Edited April 5, 20242 yr by Skywolf

On 4/3/2024 at 1:49 PM, Sparkrite said:

I accept that a "Catch 22" situation may exist but P3D users are doing little, if anything, to alleviate said position.

I have both V5 and V6 installed and at least 95% of my many addons work well in the latter version and because of the improvements ( some,mentioned above)

Sure, I have most of my V5.x add-ons "working" in P3D V6.x, but making them "work" isn't really the objective ... having them use all the new features in V6 is the desire.  3rd party vendors were ignoring P3D V4.x to P3D V5.x new features long before any other platform arrived like MSFS.  I know ORBX were still using FS9 and FSX SDK to produce their content for P3D well into P3D V5.x ... it was rare we'd see even PBR updates.  So even with the largest simulator user base (at the time), it still didn't prompt the embrace of P3D new features.

Only a new product with the promise of "Gold" made that happen ... in MSFS.  Given that I haven't really seen any major increase in development efforts with all the vendors from P3D that moved to MSFS, then that suggests the market is still very niche, better sales with MSFS, but nothing to really expand a 3rd party add-on developers business ... which is actually kinda sad, how many times do I have to pay for the same aircraft and get less rather than more?

Edited April 7, 20242 yr by CO2Neutral