9 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

I absolutely despise this pay to beta nonsense, its ruined this community and lower the standards, all because of inpatient teenagers.

It's everywhere now, e.g. early access Steam. Whilst it's good for the inpatient, I think overall quality is suffering since there doesn't seem to be any incentive to actually getting the product stable once the dev has made their money.

23 minutes ago, tonywob said:

, I think overall quality is suffering since there doesn't seem to be any incentive to actually getting the product stable once the dev has made their money.

This is exactly my point 

8 hours ago, tonywob said:

It's everywhere now, e.g. early access Steam. Whilst it's good for the inpatient, I think overall quality is suffering since there doesn't seem to be any incentive to actually getting the product stable once the dev has made their money.

I think you missunderstood something. They will release it to the wide public with VNAV and tons of others features we have never seen so far in any other addon (already there!). They won't make any big money with the only 900-1000 alpha-testers who are helping to fix many things before releasing it to the public. It's in their own interest to release it in a very good state (although no addon ever has been released bugfree). So you are already anticipating for something that won't happen. Why?

Edited June 5, 20242 yr by Franz007

18 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

I absolutely despise this pay to beta nonsense, its ruined this community and lower the standards, all because of inpatient teenagers.

Why?? It's the opposite! The quality is absolutely amazing. Sounds are like never seen before, the textures are excellent and it has a system-depth that we have only seen in the CL650 before. And they wanted to release it with important features like VNAV missing. They asked their audience and I am happy that we got them TO NOT RELASE it with something like that missing. How exactly does that impact you negatively? I seriously don't get it  at all. It's already clearly above the quality of almost all addons released before. And now ou are afraid that this may lower the standards? LOL.

Edited June 5, 20242 yr by Franz007

Is lnav functional to the point of flying radius2fix RNAV legs?

Haven't yet seen any reports on the C*u law modelling? Can you point me to where it might be addressed?

Thx 🙏

Edited June 5, 20242 yr by jcomm

3 hours ago, Franz007 said:

So you are already anticipating for something that won't happen. Why?

I'm not anticipating anything or even talking specifically about this product, I'm just sharing and agreeing with a general observation that early access often (but not always) has ruined the quality of certain products, games etc.

18 minutes ago, tonywob said:

I'm not anticipating anything or even talking specifically about this product, I'm just sharing and agreeing with a general observation that early access often (but not always) has ruined the quality of certain products, games etc.

And what let you think that it could be the case with that proiduct, when it's quality in alpha-state is already (well) above what most people were expecting?

3 hours ago, jcomm said:

Is lnav functional to the point of flying radius2fix RNAV legs?

Let‘s just say this: it is not a PMDG 😉

39 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

Let‘s just say this: it is not a PMDG 😉

Then, it can probably fly the RF legs 🙂 because PMDG are still failing to do so.... and their C*u implementation up to the latest update for P3D of the 777 was far from perfect...

On 6/4/2024 at 12:33 PM, BobFS88 said:

The 777v2 is design built from the ground up using a build philosophy that is different from Ramezzess previous rendition of the 777v1, 757/767 after training and receiving his type rating for the 777 aircraft. In other words, he has learn new information that would allow the him to build the v2 with deep system simulation to closely function as the real thing, at lease from my observation. The 777v1 and the 757/767 are extension of his original design going back to XP 10 and should not be use as baseline to measure the quality for what is going into his work on the 777v2. The 757/767 are usually regarded as fun aircraft the fly and does go above and beyond to fill the niche nicely where others have not have. For now, FF focus has been on the V2, later 787 and A350. Maybe he might circle back to getting the 767/757 on the same level, (which I hope does), if he cares to do so. We will have to wait and see.  

That's good to know, but still, good promise at best. I can only believe when it actually came out (video on beta looks good, but still have problems ofc as it's beta). That's why I'm "optimistic suspicion"

18 hours ago, Franz007 said:

And what let you think that it could be the case with that proiduct, when it's quality in alpha-state is already (well) above what most people were expecting?

Did you read what I wrote? I don't know anything about this product, I'm not interested in flying airliners or use such products. I was sharing an observation about early access in general, that is all. There is no need to be defensive

3 minutes ago, tonywob said:

Did you read what I wrote? I don't know anything about this product, I'm not interested in flying airliners or use such products. I was sharing an observation about early access in general, that is all. There is no need to be defensive

Well, you made that comment clearly in response of someone talking about the FF777 and complaining. So it looked like you were agreeing with his opinion 😉

I managed to grab it last night. This is the highest fidelity aircraft add-on I have seen in my 20 years of flight simming. Nothing comes close.

Wow, that's an impressive good comment on the 777 v2 because I'm also thinking on grabbing my copy, however I'm a little cautious for its current state at v2.0.10 alpha state, or is in beta state? I'm a little confused. Anyway I appreciate a couple of comments too from other users owning this product at current development state. thanks! 

Edited June 6, 20241 yr by alexcolka

Here is a review of the 777v2 from Xpane reviews. There is quite a bit of reading of the current features.

https://xplanereviews.com/index.php?/forums/topic/16099-aircraft-review-boeing-777-200er-v2-ultimate-by-flightfactor-aero/#comment-23290