August 9, 20241 yr Well, I mean, with MSFS 2024 having such a remarkably bright future, how come be MSFS 2020 is still selling so well ? Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
August 9, 20241 yr Author 11 minutes ago, martinboehme said: Do you have public sales figures for MSFS 2020? NADA ! Hence the challenge for abrams 🙂 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
August 9, 20241 yr If MSFS 2020 is still selling that well (which I don’t know), it might most likely be because of Game Pass subscriptions. I doubt that sales figures for MSFS 2020 as a stand alone product have been that exorbitant lately. But that‘s just a guess with zero evidence to support it. And if it is indeed still selling well, it might be because of their good marketing (eg World Updates) and because people know that addons will be compatible so they „only“ lose $50. i9-11900K, RTX 4090, 32 GB ram, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, TCA Airbus sidestick and quadrant, Reverb G2
August 9, 20241 yr Author Yes, upward compatibility looks like a big factor, at least for a user likeme who have invested in a few good addons and look forward to be able to use them in the next version of MSFS, although I honestly doubt that each and every developer will offer free upgrades ... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
August 9, 20241 yr It doesn't really matter if MSFS2020 is 'selling well' at the moment. What are selling well are addons through the in-game market place. The number of users has achieved some sort of critical mass and it's this continuing purchasing power that is driving development and investment. I would imagine sales will slow before the release of 2024 but once that's up and running the sim will provide a dual income source for Microsoft through new sim sales as well as the market place. If they get this thing out in November as promised they're going to have a bumper Christmas.....
August 9, 20241 yr Indeed, the power of msfs is the marketplace! This is what was lacking in the former flightsims and this is a no brainer that LR wants to open a xplane store too. It alows Microsoft/Asobo and soon LR to bring constant revenues, even when the initial income of the core flight simulator sales is gone. And due to the Xbox market, Asobo has a powerful tool because this is the only way for xbox users to buy add-ons (Not sure the xplane store will have the same success, but hey, better than nothing for LR) Honnestly, this was a game changer and it's one of the reason why we still have updates for msfs 4 years after release and that the msfs series might last over time. Edited August 9, 20241 yr by sdirand
August 9, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, sdirand said: Indeed, the power of msfs is the marketplace! This is what was lacking in the former flightsims and this is a no brainer that LR wants to open a xplane store too. … They do? Honestly, the Scenery Gateway is something MS should have shamelessly borrowed themselves, in time for launch of MS2020.
August 9, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, jcomm said: Well, I mean, with MSFS 2024 having such a remarkably bright future, how come be MSFS 2020 is still selling so well ? I'm not abrams_tank but I can guess that reason that MSFS2020 sells so good is because you get to keep all your purchases from marketplace and most vendors pledged free upgrade for 2024 . Why wait for tomorrow that if you can enjoy something today > Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
August 9, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, jcomm said: Well, I mean, with MSFS 2024 having such a remarkably bright future, how come be MSFS 2020 is still selling so well ? Because 2024 isn’t out yet
August 9, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, conundrum said: They do? Honestly, the Scenery Gateway is something MS should have shamelessly borrowed themselves, in time for launch of MS2020. Absolutely, be glad to see when it is in full effect tbh. 90% of the airports I have landed at in XP have been quite impressive. Looking forward to the day I get that with MSFS.. G Edit: Good to see that they have added the missing runway to EIDW though !! Edited August 9, 20241 yr by Gazzareth Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
August 9, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, conundrum said: They do? Apparently, yes. https://www.x-plane.com/2024/02/introducing-the-x-plane-store/ I do agree that MS seems to have been slow to implement a user supported scenery gateway, but I do recall reading somewhere that this is more difficult to do in MSFS than it is in XP, perhaps because of the extensive use of AI and photogrammetry. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
August 9, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, sd_flyer said: I'm not abrams_tank but I can guess that reason that MSFS2020 sells so good is because you get to keep all your purchases from marketplace and most vendors pledged free upgrade for 2024 . Why wait for tomorrow that if you can enjoy something today > Nuff said...END THREAD Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
August 9, 20241 yr Bit weird to start a thread to call out a specific member and start it like the rest of the forum is already privy to your past conversation. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
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