4 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

😍😍

The Saab and the A330-200 are enough reason for me to switch to 2024. I'd do it on day one, but only if:

1) All my current 2020 Marketplace purchases are enabled in 2024.
2) There's a way to move the Marketplace purchases from the Steam version to the MS Store one (that's because Steam now charges me in USD, while MS still charges in my currency).

For #2, if that doesn't happen, I'll simply wait until first sale.

I need to wait until AddonLinker is updated and then I’ll move over. But I’ll be on a two week cruise when it’s released so plenty of time to watch everything unfold from the suite lounge in the middle of the ocean.

3 hours ago, Juliett Alfa Romeo said:

I understand and think it's a good thing that Asobo/Microsoft want to attract a new audience, but I hope that for a "veteran" flight simulator user like me there's no need to go through all those “career mode” menus and I can go straight to my usual flight from A to B without any "complications".

Theres still a free flight mode 

10 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

All my current 2020 Marketplace purchases are enabled in 2024.

All purchases will transfer over automatically. Most should work day one.

 

I think the NDA has been lifted;

Dutch tech outlet Tweakers

 

1 minute ago, bigifooti said:

I think the NDA has been lifted;

It was.

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

but you need to compare it to the other alternatives on the market, to truly appreciate the ground that MSFS has broken.

No.

You don't.

You should be able to appreciate anything for what it is, without making unnecessary comparisons. Comparing MSFS2024 with 2020 makes a kind of sense, you can see direct comparisons and improvements, but even here, if you have to make direct comparisons to see an improvement you could reasonably question how much of an improvement there is.

Comparing MSFS 2024 (or even 2020) with other sims, and one in particular, is nothing but pure tribalism.

And I sincerely wish everybody would stop doing it here. It reveals very little about the absolute worth of any of the sims mentioned, but a wealth of information about the attitudes of the person doing the comparison.

To probably mis-quote Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that.

12 minutes ago, SergioCosta said:

It was.

open Youtube and you find multiple first views!

 

 

2 minutes ago, bigifooti said:

open Youtube and you find multiple first views!

I was confirming it was. The guy on the right on the second video is quite handsome, by the way.

Just now, SergioCosta said:

I was confirming it was. The guy on the right on the second video is quite handsome, by the way.

Now i see! Congratulations! 

9 minutes ago, bigifooti said:

open Youtube and you find multiple first views!

 

Nice. Squirrel has a PPL in real life.  He talks about the new aerodynamics and ground effect in MSFS 2024.

Is there any benefit to buying this on presale?

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by mikethe6th

17 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

No.

You don't.

You should be able to appreciate anything for what it is, without making unnecessary comparisons. Comparing MSFS2024 with 2020 makes a kind of sense, you can see direct comparisons and improvements, but even here, if you have to make direct comparisons to see an improvement you could reasonably question how much of an improvement there is.

Comparing MSFS 2024 (or even 2020) with other sims, and one in particular, is nothing but pure tribalism.

And I sincerely wish everybody would stop doing it here. It reveals very little about the absolute worth of any of the sims mentioned, but a wealth of information about the attitudes of the person doing the comparison.

To probably mis-quote Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that.

I vehemently disagree with you. We compare products all the time.  The new IPhone 16? You bet the new IPhone 16 is being compared to the new Samsung phones, Sony phones, etc. I will gladly compare the IPhone 16 to the latest Samsung and Sony phones.

Buying a new TV? You will compare the TV you want to buy to other TVs made by other companies.

Buying a new Tesla? You will compare the Tesla to perhaps the electric cars made by BMW and Volkswagen.

Buying a Playstation? Well, maybe you want to compare the Playstation to XBox and Switch, before you make the purchase.

I can go on and on. Why should we not compare the new upcoming flight simulator to other flight simulators on the market?

So should I stop comparing the products that I may buy, to other products on the market?  Can you see how silly you sound @andy1252?

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

4 minutes ago, mikethe6th said:

Is there any benefit to buying this on presale?

EDIT: I see it now. 50% that expires in 11 days 

Are you sure thats not for 2020?  I see its discounted now.  The prices for 2024 appear to be the same as when 2020 came out

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024#purchaseoptions

2 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Are you sure thats not for 2020?  I see its discounted now.  The prices for 2024 appear to be the same as when 2020 came out

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024#purchaseoptions

Very good point Ryan. So, no benefit in the presale?