I'm really interested to see how this is going to work out - From what I understand, 2024 version is going to be heavily server/cloud based and we know how their servers work presently. Looking at their specs - Recommended bandwidth 50Mbps whereas ideal bandwidth is 100Mbps.   

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I used to have a 70mbps connection before I moved house two weeks ago. I now have around 15 until the telephone exchange down the road is upgraded (hopefully this will be done soon). I was worried that this would cause problems with MSFS, but so far it has been working OK.

When I hear stories like your's Christopher, it makes a mockery of the argument that says it's at the users' location eg, someone watching a movie or using the internet elsewhere in the house, when they have eg. a 500Mps connection! I have such a connection and have still experienced the dreaded error message, even when I'm alone in the house with no other devices online. A few months ago, I spent almost an entire weekend without being able to fly. All day Saturday and part of the Sunday!

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by Rocky_53

I have a 500mbit connection and always have issues with photogrammetry, some days it works fine other days its a nuclear wasteland. The concerns brought up in this thread is very legitimate… Guess we will see how it pans out…

I guess eveyone that posts here would be aware of the difference, but it's amazing how many people think their broadband/WiFi are one and the same, including the available bandwidth.

I now have 900 Mbps service at home, but only if I run a CAT5e cable from the router to the PC. Even then, I had to ditch my perfectly good firewall and use the supplied router as the firewall limited the thrroughput to ~300 Mbps.

Then you have the cloud to get through to MS and then you are limited to whatever bandwidth MS provides.

Hopefully 2024 will put the bandwidth message somewhere other than the middle of the windscreen...

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I used to have a 70mbps connection before I moved house two weeks ago. I now have around 15 until the telephone exchange down the road is upgraded (hopefully this will be done soon). I was worried that this would cause problems with MSFS, but so far it has been working OK.

What Exchange are you off Chris? 

I'm presuming you are on Copper only - either a long line out in the sticks or even close to exchange on "exchange only line" - some are unlucky like that unfortunately - missed FTTC and have to wait for P to arrive.

 

13 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

I guess eveyone that posts here would be aware of the difference, but it's amazing how many people think their broadband/WiFi are one and the same, including the available bandwidth.

I now have 900 Mbps service at home, but only if I run a CAT5e cable from the router to the PC. Even then, I had to ditch my perfectly good firewall and use the supplied router as the firewall limited the thrroughput to ~300 Mbps.

Then you have the cloud to get through to MS and then you are limited to whatever bandwidth MS provides.

Hopefully 2024 will put the bandwidth message somewhere other than the middle of the windscreen...

Sure, you make a good point about the cable to the router. It's something I was made aware of after upgrading to the 500Mbs connection some months ago. I couldn't understand why I was paying for a 500Mps connection and getting less than 300Mps! Having said that, it took BT support a while to discover that I wasn't using a CAT5 cable! So yeah, I have a pretty good connection via cable to router and delivers 500Mps. Like many others, I am concerned about 2024 and the possible issues we may encounter. But let's hope my concerns are unfounded.

26 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

I guess eveyone that posts here would be aware of the difference, but it's amazing how many people think their broadband/WiFi are one and the same, including the available bandwidth.

I now have 900 Mbps service at home, but only if I run a CAT5e cable from the router to the PC. Even then, I had to ditch my perfectly good firewall and use the supplied router as the firewall limited the thrroughput to ~300 Mbps.

Then you have the cloud to get through to MS and then you are limited to whatever bandwidth MS provides.

Hopefully 2024 will put the bandwidth message somewhere other than the middle of the windscreen...

I use a CAT5e so that one should be ok. But how do I measure if I have any bottlenecks?

If I can solve this melted photogrammetry, that would be awsome..

You can still manually install items, at least stuff that is listed in the content manager.

There's a button on the UI that says 'install locally'

  

1 hour ago, Kaboki said:

If I can solve this melted photogrammetry, that would be awsome..

Melted photogrammetry can also be an issue with the quality of the image data, not just internet speed.

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

6 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Melted photogrammetry can also be an issue with the quality of the image data, not just internet speed.

Yeah, it could,,, but it doesnt explain why one day its melted, 2 days after its perfect when flying in the same area…

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by Kaboki

1 hour ago, hanhamreds said:

What Exchange are you off Chris? 

I'm presuming you are on Copper only - either a long line out in the sticks or even close to exchange on "exchange only line" - some are unlucky like that unfortunately - missed FTTC and have to wait for P to arrive.

 

To be honest, I am rather disappointed with the low speed connection. The house that I moved to is around 150 yards away from the previous one! It is also a total refurbishment, so I would have expected a better connection to have been sorted out right from the start. Hopefully, this will be rectified soon. Watching any new airports downloading at less than 2MB/s is rather painful

1 hour ago, Kaboki said:

I use a CAT5e so that one should be ok. But how do I measure if I have any bottlenecks?

If I can solve this melted photogrammetry, that would be awsome..

This is difficult because the bottleneck could be anywhere between your wall socket and the MS server you're pulling the data from.

Obviously, one of the 'speed test' sites will tell you what sort of bandwidth you're getting so you check if it's consistent.

You could isolate any other networked devices in the household while you're flying to check none of them are hogging bandwidth. (Disable the WiFi.)

Hmm ok, I always get what im supposed to when doing the speedtests and its consistent.. 

10 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

To be honest, I am rather disappointed with the low speed connection. The house that I moved to is around 150 yards away from the previous one! It is also a total refurbishment, so I would have expected a better connection to have been sorted out right from the start. Hopefully, this will be rectified soon. Watching any new airports downloading at less than 2MB/s is rather painful

I live in the middle of a block of 5 terraced cottages. The left 2 have been able to order FTTP since last year, the other 3 including mine couldn't despite being served by the same pole across the street. During a recent outage a BT bloke told me all their fibre equipment was on the pole so he didn't know why I couldn't order it.

Then I got a letter a couple of weeks ago from YouFibre offering me FTTP and it was installed two working days later. They use their own fibre network so it is incredibly satisfying that I no longer give any money to BT!

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by flyingscampi

Is it not the case that the the aircraft and scenery that each one of us uses is downloaded as needed but is stored in local cache for future use, so streaming use would reduce over time if you stick to your favourites ?

16 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

Wow, I'm amazed. Try putting 'lost connection MSFS' or 'low bandwidth MSFS' into Google, just to bring you up to speed. 

It is apparently region specific and appears to affect European users primarily. I am in the US, fly approximately 10 hours per week, and have never had the “low bandwidth” error once in 4+ years of using MSFS.

I do occasionally get the “lost connection” message, but it normally reconnects automatically within a few seconds.