6 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

Wow, I'm amazed. Try putting 'lost connection MSFS' or 'low bandwidth MSFS' into Google, just to bring you up to speed. 

I wouldn't even respond to those 'I'm alright Jack' comments.  I see it a lot and I am now on 500mbs.  When it starts (which is just occasionally for me), it pops in and out of connection endlessly.

It seems it is server bandwidth issues that cause this to pop up, or if there is some other kind of problem with them.  It is well documented and even Jorg and Asobo have mentioned it. 
They said it is difficult to move the pop up out of the centre of the screen in 2020, but will try to move it to a less conspicuous place in 2024 - we will see.

If what they say about the rolling cache covering 100s of km of data surrounding me, along with more of the area being processed and "pushed" I am hoping that what they say about less bandwidth being used will minimize this issue. 

I also play via xcloud on my phone over both LTE and local wifi and don't see this issue. Of course in this case the sim is being run fully on their servers and no local processing is occurring. 

 

8 hours ago, Fielder said:

There was almost a dozen testers flying MSFS2024 at the preview. At the same time! Only a few slowdowns and stutters reported.

I'll bet that, for the preview, all the content was being dished by *local* servers.

8 hours ago, Fielder said:

There was almost a dozen testers flying MSFS2024 at the preview. At the same time!Only a few slowdowns and stutters reported.

That's sarcasm isn't it?

Yes, I confess, indeed it was.

11 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

I've seen it often enough. It comes and goes. I've assumed it's something to do with my rural UK Internet of 60-70mbps.

This 'Cloud' business is my only anxiety about 2024.

60-70mbps is that FTTC you have?

Those speeds should be fine in any case 

12 hours ago, sonny147 said:

my only concern is the high reliance on others to provide us with good streaming service ,some of us may have high end hardware and also pay for a good internet  service ( in my case case 500Mbs ) but in the UK if you use Virgin like i do the reliability is about as good as my old Vespa 250 ( still love scooters though) i spent a lot of money getting a really good system to give a really good smooth  image with good fast NVME's CPU's etc , i maybe wrong but with 2024 i am  going to have rely on the outside world to give the image and smoothness i want , tell me if aim wrong i could do someone explaining the "cloud" thing to me gently. 😎

the "your offline " message in the sim happens far too often already ! iam apprehensive 

Speeds are one thing, throughput is another. We get throughput issues reported into us all the time from CPs (I'm UK based btw), often escalated as the fault journey typically hasn't been that great for the end user.

Also you can get issues with bandwidth, the PON maybe saturated and at its limit because of an unusually amount of users are on a higher speed profile. I've seen provisions where a new build has failed because the PON is already at its limit, has say 30mbs left in it's capacity and the new customers profile is a 900/115 for example - that's a tricky one I can tell you.

 

I can only speak for me here when I say that the low bandwidth issue is almost always a MS problem - not my end. 

 

Just to add - I don't work for Virgin

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by hanhamreds

"Mom, why is the TV so messed up? I can't watch Disney, Netflix, Hulu, YouTube or anything the picture's all blurry and it keeps pausing every few seconds!" 

"Shush Billy, Daddy's upstairs playing his aeroplane game again. Please don't use the TV now, or your phone, or your tablet. You know how he gets when his game crashes." 

I have a feeling we are on the way of creating the next big environmental hazard with moving stuff into the cloud.

The amount of energy it costs to have worldwide connected server farms runing 24/7 has to be astronomical.

 

I already read a few years ago that streaming movies is way less environment friendly than producing physical copies and shipping them all around the world to the buyers.

Definately not a way to reduce the carbon footprint.

43 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

"Mom, why is the TV so messed up? I can't watch Disney, Netflix, Hulu, YouTube or anything the picture's all blurry and it keeps pausing every few seconds!" 

"Shush Billy, Daddy's upstairs playing his aeroplane game again. Please don't use the TV now, or your phone, or your tablet. You know how he gets when his game crashes." 

This is so true. 
 

last night I was reading online about how to improve my internet before FS2024 arrives. . . . whilst I was watching something streaming on Netflix. I hypocritically decided it was all my families fault as they always working from home, in teams meetings or streaming stuff. 
 

I’ve only got about 40 internet speed units, so not sure how it’s all going to work with FS2024. 

3 minutes ago, Farlis said:

I have a feeling we are on the way of creating the next big environmental hazard with moving stuff into the cloud.

The amount of energy it costs to have worldwide connected server farms runing 24/7 has to be astronomical.

 

I already read a few years ago that streaming movies is way less environment friendly than producing physical copies and shipping them all around the world to the buyers.

Definately not a way to reduce the carbon footprint.

So if my employer tries to replace me as a pilot with a WFH pilot that could be less enviro friendly than having me flying the aircraft irl? 

 

16 minutes ago, g-liner said:

last night I was reading online about how to improve my internet before FS2024 arrives. . . .

Doesn't matter how blindingly fast your PC and Internet connection is, you're still at the mercy of overloaded servers.

Yup, i see it quite a lot this year, especially while flying in Europe, and Middle East/Asia. 1GB FTTP, so that's not the issue. I go with it's their end, and the servers.

My connection is pitiful. Just above the minimum specified. 

l won't be laying out for it until I hear how other slowcoaches experience it. 

I'll assume they know what they're doing because some of the ideas sound absolutely horrendous on paper. 

Game developers seem to automatically assume everyone has gigabits and petabytes to hand and gaily plough on accordingly. 

I certainly hope in this case they realise many do not. 

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by superspud

Wait on the first prime times when every of the 15m simmers is trying to download nearly everything (except 30GB) inclusivly his aircraft before beginning a flight…

I am not a lefty but I agree with those people who critizise the unequality between those rich western players with glas fibre rate and those in poorer countries who will be squeezed away with their poor band width. Clouding a game like Flight Simulator is a very unsocial action.

I used to have a 70mbps connection before I moved house two weeks ago. I now have around 15 until the telephone exchange down the road is upgraded (hopefully this will be done soon). I was worried that this would cause problems with MSFS, but so far it has been working OK.