October 2, 20241 yr I didn't even bother to test this. I removed the Navigraph AIRAC before starting MSFS, installed the update, removed the bush flight (I really should remove them all plus a load of other word not allowed I'll never use anyway), quit MSFS, reinstalled Navigraph, started MSFS and all is fine.
October 2, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said: Not sure if it's been mentioned already, but apparently there's a workaround to keep using Navigraph: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-crashes-on-pc-with-aau3-and-navigraph/657118?u=cptpiett8113 So let me understand this... A “Bush Trip - Scotland” package is crashing the singularly most used add-on in the MSFS community? A “Bush Trip - Scotland”? Really! Yes, I'm going to remove a “Bush Trip - Scotland” to keep flying throughout the rest of the world. Richard Boll Wichita, KS
October 2, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, mistolip said: I didn't even bother to test this. I removed the Navigraph AIRAC before starting MSFS, installed the update, removed the bush flight (I really should remove them all plus a load of other word not allowed I'll never use anyway), quit MSFS, reinstalled Navigraph, started MSFS and all is fine. Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present. I did this by default as I always remove my community folder (actually, rename), but I wanted to lay out what else I've done the last couple of updates and suggest it as a general practice. In addition to taking the community folder out of play, I've also taken to holding off putting the full folder back in play after the update until I've had a chance to look online to see what, if any, problems folks were having. In this case, by the time I looked, it was already clear that it was a good idea to remove the Navigraph AIRAC, so after putting my community folder back in place, I used Navigraph Hub to remove the AIRAC, then restarted FS with my now-modified community folder in place. After a successful start, I shut down the sim, re-installed the AIRAC and restarted with NO ISSUES. Problem solved/averted. Bottom line - always remove the community folder and then check online to see what's happening to others before you put it back in place unmodified. Scott Edited October 2, 20241 yr by tttocs
October 2, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, tttocs said: Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present. I did this by default as I always remove my community folder (actually, rename), but I wanted to lay out what else I've done the last couple of updates and suggest it as a general practice. In addition to taking the community folder out of play, I've also taken to holding off putting the full folder back in play after the update until I've had a chance to look online to see what, if any, problems folks were having. In this case, by the time I looked, it was already clear that it was a good idea to remove the Navigraph AIRAC, so after putting my community folder back in place, I used Navigraph Hub to remove the AIRAC, then restarted FS with my now-modified community folder in place. After a successful start, I shut down the sim, re-installed the AIRAC and restarted with NO ISSUES. Problem solved/averted. Bottom line - always remove the community folder and then check online to see what's happening to others before you put it back in place unmodified. Scott What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac??? Edited October 2, 20241 yr by Bobsk8
October 2, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, tttocs said: Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present. I am a long time Navigraph user. I do not have -any- bush trips installed, so the reported UK bush trip is not on my system. Removed them long ago since I do not use them. I have not experienced any issues whatsoever, Navigraph in full use. Completed a three-hour flight yesterday and a 90 minute flight this morning. Edited October 2, 20241 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 2, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac??? The The AIRAC Cycle 2409 rev.1 is shown in the Navigraph Hub with a button for Remove/install. The actual data in the Community Folder is stored in: navigraph-navdata navigraph-navdata-base I just removed these folders and all was well Randall Rocke
October 2, 20241 yr Just now, RandallR said: The The AIRAC Cycle 2409 rev.1 is shown in the Navigraph Hub with a button for Remove/install. The actual data in the Community Folder is stored in: navigraph-navdata navigraph-navdata-base I just removed these folders and all was well OK, I see what happened, for some reason, 2409 in the Hub never installed... Strange.
October 2, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, fppilot said: I am a long time Navigraph user. I do not have -any- bush trips installed, so the reported UK bush trip is not on my system. The bush trip is probably a part of my system. With the Navigraph data removed I'm flying. I'm going to check on the bush flight and remove it, then reinstall the AIRAC. Randall Rocke
October 2, 20241 yr Quote UPDATE 2024-10-02 @ 1615 UTC: We have deployed a fix for this crash along with today’s monthly navdata update. Please restart your sim to download this patch. Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
October 2, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac??? FYI, the relevant folders appear to be "navigraph-navdata" and "navigraph-navdata-base". That said, I didn't manually remove them after putting the community folder back in place. I used Navigraph Hub. Scott
October 2, 20241 yr It was. And it worked for me. i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
October 2, 20241 yr Working fine as well. AMD Ryzen 7800x3d 64gb DDR5, Sapphire 7900 GPU MSSI Tomahawk AM5 M/Board. 1x 4tb Crucial M.2 SSD, 3x 2tb Crucial M.2 SSD's
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