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Please be aware todays (1 Oct 24) update can cause crashes

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I didn't even bother to test this. I removed the Navigraph AIRAC before starting MSFS, installed the update, removed the bush flight (I really should remove them all plus a load of other word not allowed I'll never use anyway), quit MSFS, reinstalled Navigraph, started MSFS and all is fine.

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5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned already, but apparently there's a workaround to keep using Navigraph:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-crashes-on-pc-with-aau3-and-navigraph/657118?u=cptpiett8113

So let me understand this...  A “Bush Trip - Scotland” package is crashing the singularly most used add-on in the MSFS community?  A “Bush Trip - Scotland”?  Really!  Yes, I'm going to remove a “Bush Trip - Scotland” to keep flying throughout the rest of the world.  

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

16 minutes ago, mistolip said:

I didn't even bother to test this. I removed the Navigraph AIRAC before starting MSFS, installed the update, removed the bush flight (I really should remove them all plus a load of other word not allowed I'll never use anyway), quit MSFS, reinstalled Navigraph, started MSFS and all is fine.

Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present.  I did this by default as I always remove my community folder (actually, rename), but I wanted to lay out what else I've done the last couple of updates and suggest it as a general practice.

In addition to taking the community folder out of play, I've also taken to holding off putting the full folder back in play after the update until I've had a chance to look online to see what, if any, problems folks were having.  In this case, by the time I looked, it was already clear that it was a good idea to remove the Navigraph AIRAC, so after putting my community  folder back in place, I used Navigraph Hub to remove the AIRAC, then restarted FS with my now-modified community folder in place.  After a successful start, I shut down the sim, re-installed the AIRAC and restarted with NO ISSUES.  Problem solved/averted.

Bottom line - always remove the community folder and then check online to see what's happening to others before you put it back in place unmodified.

 

Scott

Edited by tttocs

25 minutes ago, tttocs said:

Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present.  I did this by default as I always remove my community folder (actually, rename), but I wanted to lay out what else I've done the last couple of updates and suggest it as a general practice.

In addition to taking the community folder out of play, I've also taken to holding off putting the full folder back in play after the update until I've had a chance to look online to see what, if any, problems folks were having.  In this case, by the time I looked, it was already clear that it was a good idea to remove the Navigraph AIRAC, so after putting my community  folder back in place, I used Navigraph Hub to remove the AIRAC, then restarted FS with my now-modified community folder in place.  After a successful start, I shut down the sim, re-installed the AIRAC and restarted with NO ISSUES.  Problem solved/averted.

Bottom line - always remove the community folder and then check online to see what's happening to others before you put it back in place unmodified.

 

Scott

What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac???

Edited by Bobsk8

 

 

 

33 minutes ago, tttocs said:

Indeed, the key to all of this seems to be preventing that initial CTD after the update by making sure Navigraph is not present. 

I am a long time Navigraph user. I do not have -any- bush trips installed, so the reported UK bush trip is not on my system. Removed them long ago since I do not use them.  I have not experienced any issues whatsoever, Navigraph in full use. Completed a three-hour flight yesterday and a 90 minute flight this morning.

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6 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac???

The

The AIRAC Cycle 2409 rev.1 is shown in the Navigraph Hub with a button for Remove/install.

The actual data in the Community Folder is stored in:

navigraph-navdata

navigraph-navdata-base

I just removed these folders and all was well

 

Randall Rocke

Just now, RandallR said:

The

The AIRAC Cycle 2409 rev.1 is shown in the Navigraph Hub with a button for Remove/install.

The actual data in the Community Folder is stored in:

navigraph-navdata

navigraph-navdata-base

I just removed these folders and all was well

 

OK, I see what happened, for some reason, 2409 in the Hub never installed... Strange.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, fppilot said:

I am a long time Navigraph user. I do not have -any- bush trips installed, so the reported UK bush trip is not on my system.

The bush trip is probably a part of my system.  With the Navigraph data removed I'm flying.  I'm going to check on the bush flight and remove it, then reinstall the AIRAC.

Randall Rocke

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UPDATE 2024-10-02 @ 1615 UTC: We have deployed a fix for this crash along with today’s monthly navdata update. Please restart your sim to download this patch.

 

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

What I don't get is, I have had a Navigraph subscription for years. I have nothing in my Community folder that says Navigraph Airac???

FYI, the relevant folders appear to be "navigraph-navdata" and "navigraph-navdata-base".  That said, I didn't manually remove them after putting the community folder back in  place.  I used Navigraph Hub.

 

Scott

Just downloaded another update, so I  guess that is a fix for this issue. 

 

 

 

It was. And it worked for me.

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Working fine as well.

AMD Ryzen 7800x3d   64gb DDR5, Sapphire 7900 GPU MSSI Tomahawk AM5 M/Board. 1x 4tb Crucial M.2  SSD, 3x 2tb Crucial M.2 SSD's

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