Edited October 3, 20241 yr by HiFlyer

Saw this coming months ago that's why I got the CL.  You really don't know when this update will hit your machine and it's hard to stop this on Windows 11.😔

The sad truth here is this being Microsoft this very thing could happen to MSFS.  They don't seem to care how successful their product is doing if the wrong manager get's promoted over there with no vision any product can be toast.  That's why I'm a supporter of XPlane and DCS.  Always ready to make the switch if this happens to MSFS like it did with FSX.  At least we had the CD's with FSX, we're dead in the water like the Reverb G2 should Microsoft pull the plug on MSFS.  

Edited October 3, 20241 yr by Dillon

I just updated to the latest W11 .. the WMD is no longer seen anywhere under apps... they have completely annihilated every trace! LOL

I am currently running windows 11 pro version 23h2. I made a system image backup of my c:drive so that i can always reinstall this version if I need to reinstall windows. As long as Microsoft does not force anyone to upgrade to anything higher than 23H2, the reverb G2 should continue to work since only security updates are mandatory as far as I know. 
Of course, if security updates remove WMR from the system, then we are SOL 😪

And then, MS still ask to themself why they fail in many many hardware industry attempts, making "friends" from customers, bricking new expensive and modern hardware, and then they have in the SO options a green leave to show you if you are ecologist and a planet friend and how many CO2 you produce with your respiration against the Planet... ahhah. Hypocrites.

They triumph in Software also thanks to others, like ASOBO.

Dreaming the day that Steam OS have their own PC VR software, but that is not going to happen maybe in this fake competitive world of big companies, …oh, wait... with the same stake holders behind….

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/incontrol.html

InControl allows you to take control of Windows updates, especially Feature Updates, Windows 10 to 11 updates, or any Windows update that installs without your consent. Developed by Gibson Research Corporation, the author of Never10, and many other popular security utilities.

InControl is free, portable, and simple to use.

Once you run InControl, you will be notified if you have control of Windows Updates.

Click on Take Control if you don't. You can also restore control by pressing Release Control.

InControl comes from Steve Gibson, a well-known name in the computer and security industry for longer than MajorGeeks has been around. While you can change these settings manually, Steve has simplified the process with this portable app.

On 10/3/2024 at 4:06 AM, vonduck said:

I just updated to the latest W11 .. the WMD is no longer seen anywhere under apps... they have completely annihilated every trace! LOL

But is it not as simple as this ? Disable automatic updates. When manually selecting updates do not select 24H2

5 hours ago, jfri said:

But is it not as simple as this ? Disable automatic updates. When manually selecting updates do not select 24H2

No - not that I've been able to, anyway.  In the Home Edition of Win11, you can delay updates within a version for up to 5 weeks but then you have to allow any updates to carry on (and it doesn't tell you which ones are updating) before you can delay it for another period.  What I don't know is whether there is any leeway when it's a version change but if there was I think someone would have flagged it by now.

I even went into one of the inner system files and disabled updates...but it just overrode it.

Trouble also is that turning off updates for too long isn't a good idea even if someone works out how to do it. 

I haven't investigated @HiFlyer's suggestion above yet though and that may be a way.

Hope this isn't a surprise for any G2 user (but you never can tell).  If the Bigscreen Beyond did not have such a dreadful glare issue it'd be my G2 replacement, even with its premium price.  Too bad that the Crystal Light is so clunky and heavy (WWI combat flight sims, e. g. Flying Circus, anyone?).  Dang, it's not going to an easy choice for a replacement but at least my Win10 install will get me by with my G2 for the next several months.

Edited October 7, 20241 yr by TheFamilyMan

in addition to HiFlyers post, I followed this and fortunately Windows it hasn't automatically updated my W11-23-H2  to 24H2 since:

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/specify-target-feature-update-version-in-windows-11.3811/

 

6 hours ago, AJZip said:

No - not that I've been able to, anyway.  In the Home Edition of Win11, you can delay updates within a version for up to 5 weeks but then you have to allow any updates to carry on (and it doesn't tell you which ones are updating) before you can delay it for another period.  What I don't know is whether there is any leeway when it's a version change but if there was I think someone would have flagged it by now.

I even went into one of the inner system files and disabled updates...but it just overrode it.

Trouble also is that turning off updates for too long isn't a good idea even if someone works out how to do it. 

I downloaded and run the suggested InControl software which now says I am in control. Is this a solution ?

Apart from that how can they do something like this? Issue an update that makes an expensive piece of hardware useless. I see no reason to why this should be necessary.

1 hour ago, jfri said:

Apart from that how can they do something like this? Issue an update that makes an expensive piece of hardware useless. I see no reason to why this should be necessary.

MS has a long history of abandoning stuff and leaving customers high and dry.

10 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

MS has a long history of abandoning stuff and leaving customers high and dry.

One thing that comes to my mind is Win 11 which many competent systems couldn't upgrade to because of to high hard ware requirements. Are there more examples ?

1 hour ago, jfri said:

One thing that comes to my mind is Win 11 which many competent systems couldn't upgrade to because of to high hard ware requirements. Are there more examples ?

Just off the top of my head.....

• Microsoft Kinect (Sux for anybody who purchased one, and Windows Fitness that worked with it disappeared too)
• Zune (Ya' thought we were gonna support that?)
• Games for windows Live (Shut down, and everyone lost access to their games. Whoops!)
• Windows Phone (Can you hear me now?)
• Microsoft Flight (Gone in a flash, and after the shutdown of Games for windows live, you couldn't even re-download the game you paid for)
• Xbox 360 store (Bye!)
• Windows Mixed Reality (You brought one of those headsets? Ouch!)
• Aces Game studio (Oh, you were still using Flight Simulator 10?)
• Sidewinder Force feedback (Was a nice bit of kit. Bye!)