15 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Given sales numbers are never revealed we’ll never know.

Yet you knew that the only competition for the fslabs Concorde would be <some other plane most people don't know here> ?

Edited November 12, 20241 yr by fsiscool

Looks like no WX radar

17 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Looks like no WX radar

No plane in the sim uses a proper WX radar if you want one P3D does 

51 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

No plane in the sim uses a proper WX radar if you want one P3D does 

As I stated before . There are a lot of compromises when it comes to realism . Not having a tilt is only one of them .  PMDG  was stubborn in this respect until they change their mind .

Even passionate A2A can’t cover everything. As of right now a lot of airliners have “improper” WX : PMDG, Leonardo, TDFI , Just Flight . Even iFly 737 WX radar is on of the top desirable feature voted by users (to add)

Please do tell me if blank WX screen is better than that 

 

Personally a blank one because its useless in 2020.

17 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Personally a blank one because its useless in 2020.

It useless to see weather in front of you? Please elaborate? 

Just now, sd_flyer said:

It useless to see weather in front of you? Please elaborate? 

I believe carl means that the effects aren't there, acceptably modelled, so ge can live well with "a blank"...

Actually as Seb also said in one of the Q&A, MSFS 2024 will not model the effects of thunderstorm turbulence and hail encounters... Só in 2024 we can probably also gladly cross the core of a CB, just as in 2020...

12 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

It useless to see weather in front of you? Please elaborate? 

Thanks to jcomm. I've been at FL350 for instance and guess what I've had red painted over the ND when in actual fact its all below and not where I am. I'll happily refer to the one in P3D 

Edited November 12, 20241 yr by carlanthony24

1 minute ago, jcomm said:

I believe carl means that the effects aren't there, acceptably modelled, so ge can live well with "a blank"...

Actually as Seb also said in one of the Q&A, MSFS 2024 will not model the effects of thunderstorm turbulence and hail encounters... Só in 2024 we can probably also gladly cross the core of a CB, just as in 2020...

This is not how I remembered. Question was asked about WX radar improvement, and reply was given not at the release. It's not actually mean that it won't be added later.

Just a side not about "useless radar". Obviously most of us GA folk fly without on board radar. Yet they do decent  job (most of the time LOL) not to get into thunderstorm, hail or other convective weather phenomena. For starters getting weather forecast ahead of time help.  Nowdays flying with Foreflight or other apps including GPS that can feed XM weather . Even with 15 minutes update delay still better than nothing. Back in days folks flew with "storm scop" which is not WX radar but still better. So I would choose imperfect radar over nothing 

2 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Thanks to jcomm. I've been at FL350 for instance and guess what I've had red painted over the ND when in actual fact its all below and not where I am.

I don't think this is case. The echo you see on the screen is 2D projecting of straight forward cone without tils. I personally do not flying over "red" below me

Here in example:

1. Clear with cells ahead

 

2. Heavy precipitation below  yet it's not painted all "red". Only those that on my flight level

 

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

Actually as Seb also said in one of the Q&A, MSFS 2024 will not model the effects of thunderstorm turbulence and hail encounters... Só in 2024 we can probably also gladly cross the core of a CB, just as in 2020...

He mentioned that about hail, yes... but where/when did Seb mention that the effects of thunderstorms turbulence will not be modelled in 2024? Do you have a link or source? Because he has said anything *but* that.

From the global preview event presentation interviews/articles, and what people who went to that event experienced in that driver and then I believe also the tech alpha, the impact of thunderstorms and dangerous weather along with clouds density have been improved in 2024. Seb was saying one of the main reasons why storm clouds in 2020 were not as impactful to aircraft in as they should be was due to the density/thickness issue. Also, wind shear is simulated now in 2024.

When Blu XPerience Media interviewed Seb, they asked about storms/clouds/turbulence starting right here:

Seb's answer seems to contradict your take on what he said:
"turbulence is related to cloud thickness" ... "in 2020 in live weather the clouds were too thin, in 2024 that's dramatically improved with better data" ... "i've measured easily over 10,000 fpm updrafts" ... etc

And then from another report: https://msfsaddons.com/2024/09/21/heres-everything-you-need-to-know-about-weather-in-microsoft-flight-simulator-2024/

Weather has always been a central part of Microsoft Flight Simulator, and in the 2024 version, live weather data is even more seamlessly integrated into the simulation. Players will experience real-time weather conditions, including thunderstorms, heavy winds, and turbulence, all powered by live data. Wloch highlighted that the new weather system allows for greater variation in conditions, particularly in more challenging weather situations like tropical storms or blizzards.

MSFS 2024 also introduces 24-hour historical weather, allowing pilots to experience weather conditions from earlier in the day.

The improved weather engine not only affects how the world looks but also impacts flight dynamics ...

Flying through thunderstorms, for example, will require pilots to carefully navigate the turbulence and rapidly changing wind conditions. Wloch demonstrated a thunderstorm over JFK Airport in New York, showing how the cloud layers, lighting, and atmosphere combine to create a truly immersive weather event.
 

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by lwt1971

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

MSFS 2024 will not model the effects of thunderstorm turbulence

He never said that.

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

4 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Please do tell me if blank WX screen is better than that 

 

At this point, 3rd party devs are just being stupid. All the airplanes that use the default WX radar are pretty much usable, much batter than having an INOP one.

@Tuskin38, @lwt1971 and @sd_flyer, yes, my bad regarding the turbulence in thunderstorm clouds not being modelled... Sorry for that 😕

He did **only** refer to hail and it's effects, that's correct!

Looking fwd for the enhanced turbulence effects he mentioned there 👍

 

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by jcomm