Talking about growth in MSFS, iniBuilds just opened their new office in Dubai, just flashback, that was a company who was doing merely GSX profiles and thanks to MSFS, they have growth massively 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/oMHUqzmyismjTbE3/

1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said:

Talking about growth in MSFS, iniBuilds just opened their new office in Dubai, just flashback, that was a company who was doing merely GSX profiles and thanks to MSFS, they have growth massively 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/oMHUqzmyismjTbE3/

iniBuilds scenery team also went from 5 people before they started making scenery products for MSFS, to 27 people:

The irony is, people keep saying iniBuilds got a lot of money from the contract work with Microsoft. But as far as I know, most of their contracts were the planes they made for MSFS under contract, rather than their sceneries. I am not aware that they had that many contracts for developing scenery in MSFS (they had a few, but I think Microsoft is contracting out to a lot of scenery companies such as Gaya, etc).

So I think iniBuilds were able to grow their scenery team from 5 people to 27 people because their scenery add-ons are selling very well in MSFS. This is a testament to the size of the MSFS add-on market.

20 hours ago, Pilot53 said:

¿Qué te molesta del modelo de vuelo fenix? 

Apart from the physics on the ground, when flying by hand especially lack of inertia feeling and when landing especially the last 50 feet. I know they have improved a lot but I think it is difficult to improve much more because in the end you depend on the simulator engine so I think that if someone skips these limitations can have its differential point as A2A in GA and other developers.

In my opinion back in 2020 when MSFS 2020 appeared many developers like PMDG and others embraced MSFS to its full extend and as a result they have good standing grounds in terms of 737ng currently available for the sim. Had Fslabs followed the same principle and had brought their airbuses into MSFS early enough - that would have given them good rep as well as also leading the airbus short haul market, I even think Fenix might not have even been existed had Fslabs done that early on. Now at this stage it is too late for Fslabs to release an airplane which is already sold by a competitor which not only has good customer relations but their planes simulate all of known systems and features, the only thing missing is failures. Along with their past known history - Fslabs are going to have tough time if they go with A321 Ceo. Neos on other hand might just give them another chance. 

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by CAP1234

The hype for Fslabs has already died down - Developer claimed there will be an update shortly but so far no updates. There is a possibility that they might be waiting for MSFS 2024 to release then make a surprising update saying 2024 version will be supported on release of their airbus product. If so that would give them public attention that they need. 

On 11/12/2024 at 7:33 PM, Abriael said:

Source for this?

Sure - from David on Fenix Discord:

David — 19/09/2024 15:28
it's an extremely niche market for high-end airliners - every number I've seen thrown around is wildly overinflated compared to reality. It's why our competitors are usually priced much higher, as there's just not enough people interested in 'all-singing all-dancing' airliners to sell them at a lower price
we took a gamble on a lower price and to be honest, it's not sustainable long-term

 

On 11/12/2024 at 7:38 PM, abrams_tank said:

Fenix made enough money from the release of the A320 that they expanded their team and hired more employees.

Sure, but they also don't have any further revenue from any of those customers as it was a one-time sale (although the 319/321 was a paid expansion too).

I have had a whole week of holiyday with a wife thats being absolutely kind(read : painting and christmas lights ) enjoyng myself with some other aircraft but now i also wants the FSL - Bring it on 🙂

 

Michael Moe 

3 hours ago, CAP1234 said:

The hype for Fslabs has already died down - Developer claimed there will be an update shortly but so far no updates. There is a possibility that they might be waiting for MSFS 2024 to release then make a surprising update saying 2024 version will be supported on release of their airbus product. If so that would give them public attention that they need. 

There wasn't even any hype to start with. Most people here said "nah, too late, Fenix is all I need"

20 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

There wasn't even any hype to start with. Most people here said "nah, too late, Fenix is all I need"

Every wish and every wash - still VERY exited -this is from a TOP  notch developer.

Michael Moe

2 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

 but now i also wants the FSL - Bring it on 🙂

 

Michael Moe 

You can already have that but in another simulator today.

40 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

You can already have that but in another simulator today.

i have it all my friend 🙂

Thanks Michael Moe

 

8 hours ago, FPVSteve said:

Sure - from David on Fenix Discord:

David — 19/09/2024 15:28
it's an extremely niche market for high-end airliners - every number I've seen thrown around is wildly overinflated compared to reality. It's why our competitors are usually priced much higher, as there's just not enough people interested in 'all-singing all-dancing' airliners to sell them at a lower price
we took a gamble on a lower price and to be honest, it's not sustainable long-term

Couple things to think about here.

For all intents and purposes, Fenix's only direct competition is PMDG and Leonardo, with iniBuilds' A350 whenever it arises.

We could add in Just Flight's and iniBuilds classic airliners just for arguments sake.

Of all those, only Leonardo is "priced much higher".

Leonardo is also a dev who's addon is built around a single variant, and it's been that way for many years, even back into P3D.

So that casts doubt on their assertions.

Those who pay attention have seen many developers say that sales in MSFS utterly dwarf their business from previous/other platforms.

And It only makes sense that a dev will have to produce multiple add-ons of entirely different aircraft in order to maintain sales long term.

PMDG and Just Flight are the exemplars here.

So again, are Fenix's expectations realistic...?

I don't think so.

 

9 hours ago, FPVSteve said:

Sure - from David on Fenix Discord:

David — 19/09/2024 15:28
it's an extremely niche market for high-end airliners - every number I've seen thrown around is wildly overinflated compared to reality. It's why our competitors are usually priced much higher, as there's just not enough people interested in 'all-singing all-dancing' airliners to sell them at a lower price
we took a gamble on a lower price and to be honest, it's not sustainable long-term

 

Everyone seems to be sustaining pretty well, including Fenix. 

In any case, no part of that statement is in conflict with the fact that sales on all kinds of add-ons on MSFS dwarf these on other sims. 

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Abriael

It's great news to see FSL back with a product for MSFS.

We all know the quality addon they had in P3D, I expect their MSFS version will be every bit as good.