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MSFS 2024 vs MSFS 2020 : side by side

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I am pretty happy with the graphics now in many areas I fly. The clouds are vastly improved. Also, W and NW of Denver is way higher resolution than it used to be. Denver always looked ok around the immediate area, but now even in mountains far west of there it looks much better.

New Clouds in FS 2024

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  • When it comes to GA and low level flying, 2024 for sure shows its potential (if the server issues will be sorted out) - maybe even more in pure nature than in urban regions. If you fly IFR / airl

  • If you're going to compare a mature 2020 with many addons (that are clearly installed in that OP video), then yeah, it's hard to see differences. Everyone has apparently forgotten how bug ridden

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    FS 2024 FS 2024   FS 2020 FS 2020   To be fair, not every screenshot has that much difference in texture resolution and quality in the GC area, but m

6 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said:

I am pretty happy with the graphics now in many areas I fly. The clouds are vastly improved. Also, W and NW of Denver is way higher resolution than it used to be. Denver always looked ok around the immediate area, but now even in mountains far west of there it looks much better.

New Clouds in FS 2024

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Not sure I agree with that. 

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/dMPh6Gqf9xxbiJF96

 

That link shows some images of volcanic ash with real clouds behind. If the  link doesn't work (it often doesn't)  then please just ignore this post.

 

Cheers

Terry

 

 

 

 

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Even clouds that look like volcanic ash are a major improvement.

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High settings at Simaddons CYRT Rankin. 

24 using more resources and looking less detailed here.

do a comparison at an airport with default runway textures. Maybe addon maker didn't port theirs's correctly to 2024, looks like the detail map is missing completely. also turn your taxi light on so you have the same lighting conditions.

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2 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

do a comparison at an airport with default runway textures. Maybe addon maker didn't port theirs's correctly to 2024, looks like the detail map is missing completely. also turn your taxi light on so you have the same lighting conditions.

yeah, i didn't catch the taxi light, i will do more airports.

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same spot, weather live, high settings. the frames are big difference.

6 hours ago, jhnWik said:

same spot, weather live, high settings. the frames are big difference

You're using different planes so that would affect frames for sure as well. 

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On 11/25/2024 at 10:29 AM, Alpine Scenery said:

The clouds are vastly improved.

Some good, so not so good IMO over 2020.  I know I'm in a minority here but could I go back to pre SU5 in 2020 I'd gladly go there over what I see now in 2024.  Clouds now to me look even thinner then they did in 2020 and my guess is that there is actually less processing demand to create 2024 clouds.  I do see some nicer high clouds and 'weather' per se referred to as cirrus that look plausible from a distance for sure but the above post shows just how BLURRY clouds are in 2024 often.  I mean, you think this, looks good?  To me it looks like 480p resolution!  Plus, I now have artifacts in 2024 associated with DLSS4 that do not happen in 2020.
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Meanwhile, pre SU5 I took this shot near my home one day near Denver with squalls in the distance
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And while the lighting in 2024 everyone sees as improved, and I appreciate why since there is now something beyond red sunsets, but I find 2020's best sunrise/sets pretty dang lovely, like this one from way back:
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Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

28 minutes ago, Noel said:

Some good, so not so good IMO over 2020.  I know I'm in a minority here but could I go back to pre SU5 in 2020 I'd gladly go there over what I see now in 2024.  Clouds now to me look even thinner then they did in 2020 and my guess is that there is actually less processing demand to create 2024 clouds.  I do see some nicer high clouds and 'weather' per se referred to as cirrus that look plausible from a distance for sure but the above post shows just how BLURRY clouds are in 2024 often.  I mean, you think this, looks good?  To me it looks like 480p resolution!  Plus, I now have artifacts in 2024 associated with DLSS4 that do not happen in 2020.
 

Meanwhile, pre SU5 I took this shot near my home one day near Denver with squalls in the distance
 

And while the lighting in 2024 everyone sees as improved, and I appreciate why since there is now something beyond red sunsets, but I find 2020's best sunrise/sets pretty dang lovely, like this one from way back:
 

Do you have Ultra set for your clouds? If you have Ultra set for your clouds, I think you must have an add-on that is causing problems. The default clouds shouldn't look blurry at Ultra.  But if you have some graphical add-on that is interfering, such as some graphics sharpener, or whatever, I can see how you are not getting what other people are getting.

I saw earlier photos of your clouds (not in this last post, but in your older posts), that I have never seen before in MSFS 2024, not when I use it, and not on other people's live streams of MSFS 2024 either.

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On 11/25/2024 at 11:29 PM, Lord Farringdon said:

Not sure I agree with that. 

It is a fact - clouds in 2024 have seen a big improvement in types displayed and lighting.

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2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Do you have Ultra set for your clouds? If you have Ultra set for your clouds, I think you must have an add-on that is causing problems. The default clouds shouldn't look blurry at Ultra.

That wasn't my screenshot that came from the post above!  

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/655250-msfs-2024-vs-msfs-2020-side-by-side/page/9/#findComment-5254181

Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

16 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

But if you have some graphical add-on that is interfering, such as some graphics sharpener, or whatever, I can see how you are not getting what other people are getting.

Sharpening algorithms used in 2024 only cause a manifestation of the new voxel grid architecture such that you can start to see it, and that only when I use DLSS4 + DLAA, but even that now is vastly diminished to the point of being a non-issue.  I have no 'graphical addons' and a lot of the time clouds in 2024 are fine, but def not always, at all.   For example, this post everyone here says they never see, does not change when the 3 sharpening algorithms I used are all turned OFF.  This was in civil twilight, looking downward, and I've seen this more than once--little cotton balls abound...

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

54 minutes ago, Noel said:

louds now to me look even thinner then they did in 2020

That's factually wrong. I can look at any 2020 stream and identify it by the thinner clouds.

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