Wow, I wish I could botch a release, take days to get something properly rolled out only to find out all of the tools aren't included and get people to praise my work LOL

Heads would roll for this at both my company and any of my customers.  No one would be getting an atta boy and a pat on the back telling them how great they did while they were getting refund requests and explaining why they couldn't scale for their own release or release all the required tools with the sim when the company that owns their cloud infrastructure is part of the rollout process and the tools existed in their prior release!!

But sure, great job! LOL Maybe I need to put my rose tinted lenses on LOL 

It does appear the mass consensus is this was a disaster and still is in a number of areas  

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=MSFS+botched+release

 

 

Edited November 27, 20241 yr by psolk

9 minutes ago, psolk said:

heads would roll for this at both my company and any of my customers.

Well, I am grateful I do not work for your company. 🙂

No one is going to suggest the first two days went well, there was a critical failure of their authentication service and likely non-optimal server/network allocation, but to take that to a place where the heads of people who worked on this for months should roll strikes me as overly punitive, particularly as all it is is a cheap piece of entertainment software that has virtually no impact on the world at all. And we all knew or should have known from a long history of experience that the release would be difficult.

I am quite happy with what Asobo/Microsoft have delivered and look forward to the updates over the coming years.

4 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Well, I am grateful I do not work for your company. 🙂

No one is going to suggest the first two days went well, there was a critical failure of their authentication service and likely non-optimal server/network allocation, but to take that to a place where the heads of people who worked on this for months should roll strikes me as overly punitive, particularly as all it is is a cheap piece of entertainment software that has virtually no impact on the world at all. And we all knew or should have known from a long history of experience that the release would be difficult.

I am quite happy with what Asobo/Microsoft have delivered and look forward to the updates over the coming years.

I'm grateful I do...   When an outage could cost a customer in excess of a million dollars a minute people do tend to be held to a very high standard.   To your point this is entertainment software but it is also still a business. 

Those two days potentially cost them a significant number of customers plus having to undo the now public perception their release was one of the worst in recent history and the platform itself is buggy and strewn with issues beyond "just"  the release.  

So yes, damage done and people would be held accountable.  

11 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Well, I am grateful I do not work for your company. 🙂

No one is going to suggest the first two days went well, there was a critical failure of their authentication service and likely non-optimal server/network allocation, but to take that to a place where the heads of people who worked on this for months should roll strikes me as overly punitive, particularly as all it is is a cheap piece of entertainment software that has virtually no impact on the world at all. And we all knew or should have known from a long history of experience that the release would be difficult.

I am quite happy with what Asobo/Microsoft have delivered and look forward to the updates over the coming years.

So you would be happy with any product you purchased that was riddled with defects> ?   Interesting. 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

So yes, damage done and people would be held accountable.  

Yea, I was partly trying to assess this by context. It is not a product that people's lives or safety depend on nor one that will cost anyone a great expense if it is not operating and so you cannot hold the whole process of development and deployment to the same standard. I used to work for a company that deployed communication systems for hospitals and critical care facilities and if we rolled out an update that took down their communications, that would have serious ramifications; hence we had rigorous deployment protocols that were very expensive but the expense and demands on people were proportional to the use of the product. It would make poor business sense to spend that kind of human and material resources to deploy a entertainment oriented flying game. 

I agree they should -- and I suspect they are -- holding some serious after action meetings on that release; but to suggest there should be consequences to people's careers to their livelihoods because of a poor first day deployment, seems overly harsh.

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

So you would be happy with any product you purchased that was riddled with defects> ?   Interesting. 

Well, no, but I do not at all find 2024 riddled with defects.

3 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Well, no, but I do not at all find 2024 riddled with defects.

Well then all the problems posted here, on Facebook, on Discord and Steam, must be by the unluckiest people in the world.😁

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

So you would be happy with any product you purchased that was riddled with defects> ?   Interesting. 

If the defects didn’t get in the way of the experience then yes, as is the case here. Like most, I have a long list of things I’d like to see fixed or improved, and like many, even in its current state, it provides a superior experience in my preferred flying (VFR/bush) to any previous sims. The fact that this is just the start of what is presumably at least a 4 year journey with what is undoubtedly the world’s most complex sim, is genuinely exciting,

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

So you would be happy with any product you purchased that was riddled with defects> ?   Interesting. 

According to these forums, 2020 is riddled with defects, ATC, AI aircraft, clouds, etc. Did you purchase that?

3 hours ago, CarlosF said:

You mind posting your hardware specs.

7950X3D, 64gig ram and a 4090

 

edit: I'm also running a 5120x1440 monitor and TrackIr

Edited November 27, 20241 yr by laserit

I just keep have one enjoyable flight after another. I can see why Asobo has (currently frozen until the dust settles) a customer feedback thread to rate the sim. They should be very proud of what they have built. Remember when we could out see the LOD no matter how far we try to push it? Clouds, autogen, terrain..all at some point had a limit...gone are those days.

Remember when addon airports mostly ended at the fence line? I'd have to go back to MSFS2020 to look but I fell even though the world is modeled in that sim, 2024 has up'ed that a noticeable difference. The weather, the lighting, and the feel of the plane...so great. 

I can not see the need to buy another version of MSFS past this one. However, if Asobo does ever do that, I hope they learn from their launch of MSFS2024 and do these things differently.

Give a launch month and not a release date. During that month, users can download the sim but cant do any flying in it. So everyone has a month to download the sim and not feel like they are missing out because the fly now button is turned off. So we can look around at the UI, all the other stuff but just cant launch a flight. Then during that month, release how to videos focused on changes from the last version and whats new in the sim.  Kinda like what A2A and Black Square do in showing what to expect and how to use there soon to be released next product.They can also use that month for their PR stunts of having influencers test it out. Developers can also have limited access during that month to test their products and get them ready. Then at the end of the month its released to full be used.

That said, it you are still talking about the 36 hours of the release as it is still an issue, let it go, thats the past. If you are having loading issues or texture issues, thats a you thing and has nothing to do with the software. If you would rather not stream because internet service is not going in favor of you, once again a you thing and is not Asobo software. This new sim is addictive and so well created. 

Landing this morning in IFR conditions at Truckee. Once i turned off the window heater the ice came back on the windscreen as it didnt ice up until I landed passing through a cloud layer and not having the heat on long enough to really warm it up.

 

Later on Approach into Redding KRDD. Next I will be heading over to Murray Field KEKA

 

 

These are photos taken with my camera of my computer screen as I have a keyboard that doesnt allow have a working printscreen button.

20 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

According to these forums, 2020 is riddled with defects, ATC, AI aircraft, clouds, etc. Did you purchase that?

For me so far for me in free flight, the most annoying bugs are that when I shut AI traffic off the AI planes are still parked at the airports and it makes my BATC look ugly

 

Career mode has a few too many CTD's for my liking.

 

And whenever I exit back to to the main menu, the earth always ends up spinning like I'm on Apollo 13 and starts to give me vertigo if I look at it for too long... have to be quick and hit that free flight button 😉

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

So you would be happy with any product you purchased that was riddled with defects> ?   Interesting. 

See above, that's about the extent of my bugs and issues so far. Knock on wood.

I 95% fly with the FENX or a PDMG, A Pilots Life and atc of one type or another and live traffic of one type or another. I'm enjoying these things exactly the way I do in FS2020 minus the PMDG

 

The experience is pretty much bugless for me, in fact it's 10 times better than my FS2020 experience which was awesome and still is awesome.

1 hour ago, laserit said:

7950X3D, 64gig ram and a 4090

 

edit: I'm also running a 5120x1440 monitor and TrackIr

 Monster of a rig, thanks for posting.

Edited November 27, 20241 yr by CarlosF

5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Well then all the problems posted here, on Facebook, on Discord and Steam, must be by the unluckiest people in the world.😁

You know that if 50000 people have 2-3 issues with the game, it doesn’t mean one person has 150,000 issues?
 

No one is saying there aren’t bugs - but as an individual, the bugs I’m running into are vastly outweighed by the benefits of the new sim. 
 

why don’t you try it for yourself instead of going by what you read on social media? Maybe your experience will be horrible and maybe it won’t.
 

By  cherry picking stuff from YouTube or wherever, you are missing out on an amazing experience.