5 hours ago, JonathanC said:

¿Tienes activada la configuración dinámica? Desactívala. 
 

¿También estás diciendo que el terreno predeterminado en XP 12 era visualmente mejor que el de 2024? Eso no es probable. El cielo, claro, se ve genial.
 

Pero el mundo en XP no es exactamente bonito a menos que gastes tiempo, dinero o ambos en complementos/ortopedias. 

I don't want to get into the usual discussion loop because I enjoy both MFS and XP equally. Neither time nor money, it's nonsense that is repeated here a lot but it's lies, you will really spend more money and time with MFS.

 

I my phase was simple 

 

1.- Let the eager and adventurous do the dirty work that Asobo has not done with their testers.

 

2 In a year you buy 2024 and enjoy it.

 

It's a policy I've been doing for years in video games in general, right now for example I'm enjoying cyberpunk 2077 game already well patched and fully complete. My experience with the game will be radically much better than those who bought the game on launch day and on top of that for much less money.

9 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Would help if you put your system specs in your signature.  Does your graphics card have lots of VRAM?  How much RAM have you got?  What is your LOD set to?

If your specs are good, it may be the early stage in the release of 2024 that has a bug affecting you, but not me.  I just flew LPPT to EGGW at FL350 with very sharp textures as far as the visibility would allow.

Sorry I should have included my specs - a 3070 with 8GB RAM and 10900K processor - these days a bit of a "potato" I fear.   Both object and terrain LOD are set to 100 (otherwise I was getting severe stutters, but can continue to tweak).

9 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Pain?  If you can't live with bugs in a new release, fire up 2020.

I was bein' sarcastic 🙃  Having been around flight sims for a very long time, personally I'm living with the bugs just fine. This too shall pass.

7 hours ago, B777ER said:

Didn't get MS2020 until April 2023. Not in a hurry at all to move to MS2024. Let it cook for another year or so. 

let them all pay to beta test it eric. its their money.  just sit back and watch them tear themselves apart. 

 

Its not a new thing this. The same people who championed pay to beta oover the last 10 to 15 years are the same ones who have bought this half finished junk.   

1 hour ago, Republic DC9 said:

Sorry I should have included my specs - a 3070 with 8GB RAM and 10900K processor - these days a bit of a "potato" I fear.   Both object and terrain LOD are set to 100 (otherwise I was getting severe stutters, but can continue to tweak).

Maybe the combination of 8Gb VRAM and a low LOD of 100 are causing the blurriness at high altitude?  As a test does a LOD of 400 clear up the blurriness?

5 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Neither time nor money, it's nonsense that is repeated here a lot but it's lies, you will really spend more money and time with MFS.

Sorry, can’t really make sense of this - I think you’re using a translation app to translate between Spanish and English? It is not doing a good job and it’s hard to understand your comments in English. 

1 hour ago, Republic DC9 said:

Sorry I should have included my specs - a 3070 with 8GB RAM and 10900K processor - these days a bit of a "potato" I fear.   Both object and terrain LOD are set to 100 (otherwise I was getting severe stutters, but can continue to tweak).

Yeah that explains it.

17 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

Lo siento, no logro entender bien lo que dices. Creo que estás usando una aplicación de traducción para traducir del español al inglés. No funciona bien y es difícil entender tus comentarios en inglés. 

.Hi sorry my english is very bad. I just say that it is not true that for you to have a decent scenery experience in xp12 you need time and money. Simheaven+ AuyoOrtho both free, default airports in general are more than enough for a good experience. In MFS I had to invest much more money to reach the same level of satisfaction especially because the default airports are bad in general.

12 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

.Hi sorry my english is very bad. I just say that it is not true that for you to have a decent scenery experience in xp12 you need time and money. Simheaven+ AuyoOrtho both free, default airports in general are more than enough for a good experience. In MFS I had to invest much more money to reach the same level of satisfaction especially because the default airports are bad in general.

Ok now I understand you. But no, you don’t need to invest money or time in MSFS - both 2020 and 2024 have excellent scenery out of the box. 
 

While there are many good things about XP, scenery is most definitely not one of its strengths. But I’m not going to rehash the tired old arguments about which sim is better. Play whatever one you like, have fun. 

13 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

Ok, ahora te entiendo. Pero no, no necesitas invertir dinero ni tiempo en MSFS: tanto 2020 como 2024 tienen excelentes escenarios listos para usar. 
 

Si bien XP tiene muchas ventajas, el escenario no es uno de sus puntos fuertes. Pero no voy a volver a repetir los viejos y trillados argumentos sobre qué simulador es mejor. Juega con el que más te guste y diviértete. 

Do not worry I do not consider any better than others for me the most important thing is to enjoy and I do it with MFS and XP. For me it is more important  addons and both have addon that are a real marvel. 

I just wanted to clarify that some data that are repeated here a lot and that really that are not true.

2 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

just wanted to clarify that some data that are repeated here a lot and that really that are not true.

No, this is true. 
 

It is very true that you don’t need to buy scenery for 2024 or 2020, while in XP you absolutely need to buy scenery, spend time finding and downloading ortho or sim heaven - or else be satisfied with weak scenery which just isn’t nice to look at for the most part. 

 

I see that you will continue to insist that XP doesn’t need this and has amazing scenery, so I won’t really continue this conversation as the difference in scenery is one of the rare things that most players of both sims agree on, while arguing over flight models and all that. 

 

People who use both can make up their own minds, I have used both for years and would never say that XP has good scenery by default, but sure, maybe some people like you are satisfied with it and that’s fine, people like different things. 

That’s a weird thread with all kind of weird people posting weird things. A bit like a group therapy

6) Re-acceptance: Realize that the price you paid for the sim today will be the same in a year, in two years and most likely in three years. So you aren't wasting money if you ever plan on owning it. However, with a release, all addon developers can start to build upon the new platform while any bugs (and there seems to be many) can be reported and fixed quicker. All the while, not everyone is having issues and are fully enjoying each flight.

38 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

No, eso es cierto. 
 

Es muy cierto que no necesitas comprar escenarios para 2024 o 2020, mientras que en XP definitivamente necesitas comprar escenarios, pasar tiempo buscando y descargando orto o sim heaven, o de lo contrario estar satisfecho con escenarios débiles que simplemente no son agradables a la vista en su mayor parte. 

 

Veo que seguirás insistiendo en que XP no necesita esto y tiene paisajes increíbles, así que realmente no continuaré esta conversación ya que la diferencia en el paisaje es una de las raras cosas en las que la mayoría de los jugadores de ambos sims están de acuerdo, mientras discuten sobre modelos de vuelo y todo eso. 

 

Las personas que usan ambos pueden sacar sus propias conclusiones, yo he usado ambos durante años y nunca diría que XP tiene buenos escenarios por defecto, pero claro, quizá algunas personas como tú estén satisfechas con él y eso está bien, a la gente le gustan cosas diferentes. 

I'm sorry but no matter how much you repeat a lie it won't be true and that's what you are doing for free.

Just now, Aglos77 said:

I'm sorry but no matter how much you repeat a lie it won't be true and that's what you are doing for free.

Ok.