December 24, 20241 yr I go through all of the stages of both the OP and Monica (I have been at this hobby since FS98 27 years ago, and don’t want to know how much time I’ve spent “tweaking” those silly FSX files trying to hit on the perfect .cfg for my processor. I’ve had a couple of blessfully smooth flights in MSFS2024 today where I didn’t experience any crazy stutters on final approach, but why is the terrain below so BLURRY, especially at high altitude? Frustrated, I recreated the same KBLI-CYVR flight a few minutes later in XP12 and it was magical. For all of these sims, my New Year’s resolution is to keep them as close to “stock” default everything as I can to keep stutters and other gremlins at bay.
December 24, 20241 yr 6. Repitition Examples: I will go vent my angst and frustration on the online forums. Oh wait, there are already bunches of negative posts about FS2024 saying the same thing. Oh well what's one more - my pain is different and special, and it can't be my system. And when there gets to be less than 5 of these posts on the front page of AvSim, we'll start a few more. Gotta do my part to to combat those paid YouTubers. "That's what" - She
December 24, 20241 yr Notice how the majority of people who have been into flight simulation for decades are chilled. We know how far flight sim has come. We see what's great about MSFS2024 and its potential. Furthermore, we are not rushing for a refund because experience tells us that MS2024 will mature into an amazing simulator in 2025. Right now, I am loving 2024. Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
December 24, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, YukonPete said: Notice how the majority of people who have been into flight simulation for decades are chilled. We know how far flight sim has come. We see what's great about MSFS2024 and its potential. Furthermore, we are not rushing for a refund because experience tells us that MS2024 will mature into an amazing simulator in 2025. Right now, I am loving 2024. Ding ding ding. Literally every new MSFS sim was like this. I don't remember the initial release of any Microsoft flightsim title (since FS5.0 - that's when I started) that didn't contain some warts and bugs. FSX was a performance nightmare until SP2/Acceleration. 2020 was a super lite sim with totally basic avionics till at least a year in. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 24, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, BufordTX said: 1. Denial. My list is much shorter. 1. Accept there will be release bugs, there always are. 2. After day two, marvel at the new lighting model, increased terrain resolution and terrain relief. 3. Get increasingly excited at the improvements with each update. 4. As each addon is released/updated, add it to the sim. I'm having too much fun to let the bugs get in the way. After all WE KNOW the sim and addons will just keep getting better and better. Frustrating - at times yes. Enough to spoil the fun - Absolutely not! If you allow the frustration to affect you then just load up 2020, which is still a fantastic sim! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
December 24, 20241 yr 52 minutes ago, Stoopy said: my pain is different and special, and it can't be my system. Pain? If you can't live with bugs in a new release, fire up 2020. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
December 24, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, Republic DC9 said: but why is the terrain below so BLURRY, especially at high altitude? Would help if you put your system specs in your signature. Does your graphics card have lots of VRAM? How much RAM have you got? What is your LOD set to? If your specs are good, it may be the early stage in the release of 2024 that has a bug affecting you, but not me. I just flew LPPT to EGGW at FL350 with very sharp textures as far as the visibility would allow. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
December 24, 20241 yr I think the 5 stages traditionally end with acceptance. Sounds like you got there early, at stage 4, and then worked yourself back to the beginning of the cycle. i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
December 24, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Republic DC9 said: but why is the terrain below so BLURRY, especially at high altitude? Frustrated, I recreated the same KBLI-CYVR flight a few minutes later in XP12 and it was magical. Do you have Dynamic Settings turned on? Disable that. Are you also saying that the default terrain in XP 12 was visually better than 2024??? That’s not likely. The sky, sure, that looks great. But the world in XP is not exactly pretty unless you spend time money or both on addons/ortho. 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen
December 24, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, JonathanC said: Do you have Dynamic Settings turned on? Disable that. Are you also saying that the default terrain in XP 12 was visually better than 2024??? That’s not likely. The sky, sure, that looks great. But the world in XP is not exactly pretty unless you spend time money or both on addons/ortho. Dynamic Settings are turned off. The default terrain is visually better in some ways….it’s never blurry, the autogen is sharp and crisp as are the runways, the lighting is incredible. But, for sure, the orthos of MSFS 2024 (or 2020) are more realistic. XP12 (default) is more of a representation of reality, like a theatre set, the imagination has to fill in some details.
December 24, 20241 yr Patience is THE simmers virtue. I waited almost 4 years to get 2020. Longer than I wait for most games but the bug list was longer too. Still not perfect by a long way but it rarely fails to deliver what it's good for. Russell Gough SE London
December 24, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, YukonPete said: We know how far flight sim has come. We see what's great about MSFS2024 and its potential. Furthermore, we are not rushing for a refund because experience tells us that MS2024 will mature into an amazing simulator in 2025. Right now, I am loving 2024. Indeed! Anybody remembers Solo Flight on the C64? And of course Sublogic Flight Simulator 2? And nowadays we have FS2020/24... I am enjoying my heavy iron in MSFS2020 while I fly the "small(ish) stuff" and helos in MSFS2024. Just yesterday I flew the good ol' DC-3 from LJLJ to LOKL in authentic JAT colors (I learned how to do a repaint just for that one) above the freshly fallen snow and under the most astounding cloudscape lit by the setting sun. Tiny cars with their tiny headlights illuminating the road ahead, small villages in the evening mist, dense woods around, trees covered with snow, I all but forgot about 17 grumpy NeoFly passengers in the back! I remember my first solo flight in a glider in RL way back... I was turning base when I looked to the side, down at the ground and for a split second I got this terrifying feeling, Oops! What if I fall, I am in the air!? It all came back to me yesterday in the sim. Banking sharply to the right to follow the valley I got the exact same feeling, I am in the air, what if... 🙂 Bugs? Yes. CTDs? Yes, occasionally. Things not working always as expected? Yes. Dumb ATC? Yes. <insert your own grief> Yes. But the good far outweighs the bad! I reckon my glass is half full, eh? 🙃
December 24, 20241 yr Didn't get MS2020 until April 2023. Not in a hurry at all to move to MS2024. Let it cook for another year or so. Eric
December 24, 20241 yr There is plenty to enjoy in this early version of MSFS 2024, especially if you're not "stuck in your ways". You favorite plane isn't working? Move to one that does! To see how all the bugs get ironed out and how the community steps up to improve things, is part of the fun.
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