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iniBuilds A330 - it's good!

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  • He reported a plethora of issues. It may fly decently but not realistically. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/u/emi737/activity/topics

  • I think there is a general negative mindset around default aircraft, especially for long-time simmers, since previous versions of sims definitely didn't bring anything really usable. The difference be

  • This does seem to be a fantastic aircraft! I really like that China Airlines livery. The place seems to handle well and once I figured out my issue surrounding the performs data error it worked fine!

I've done a couple of good flights in it recently. It's a nice aircraft, it handles nicely on approach too - unlike their A321LR which has some weird wing wobble/oscillation bug which seems to make it feel like you're always in severe turbulence even with no wind.

I have noticed, unless it's just me, that the fuel predictions seem to be way off though. Recently flew the -300 overnight from London to Johannesburg and had to fill the tanks, and on takeoff it was still predicting I'd land with -5.0 tons on board. As the flight progressed this figure went up above zero and I actually ended up landing with about 8.0 tons spare.

Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R)

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It’s decent for sure, especially for an included aircraft.  There’s really just two things that bug me:

- time acceleration doesn’t increase fuel usage

- external sounds are very weak.

Hopefully these are two areas INI can improve.

Dave

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3 hours ago, Simon_C said:

Honestly, looking backwards 30 or so years, I'd say it's a mindset.

I never implied an expectation of a default aircraft be tested by real pilots. Just the general setting of the simmers towards the default aircraft. And I believe that this 330 is above what used to be a standard in MSFS default aircraft.

Maybe you misunderstood my post for a negative one.

OK, I agree with you on that. Default aircraft have improved, especially since WT and Inibuilds entered into the equation.

But I wanted to underline that Asobo created the expectations and now that a real "real A330 pilot" reports a series of issues, as you noticed they are not even acknowledged as bugs / parameters to fix and are relegated to the user support hub. All these posts were initially posted by Emanuel in the bugs section and moved to the support hub forum by a moderator.

I mean, how dense can one be to think that A330 Driver needs users support to fly the A330? The titles of the posts are self-explanatory and enough to understand that they are not user's problems.

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3 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

But I wanted to underline that Asobo created the expectations and now that a real "real A330 pilot" reports a series of issues, as you noticed they are not even acknowledged as bugs / parameters to fix and are relegated to the user support hub.  

Well yes, it's one of things that is very wrong with this sim (or FS in general) - trying to go into "reality" of aircraft, that I agree... thus I try to stay away from default aircraft as much as possible (my personal opinion!). As I always did. With customer payware, I can push it towards the dev if something is wrong and most likely will be fixed. Expecting from Asobo to fix such things is useless, I think we are better served if the sim itself is made better. Fix performance, fix the UI, fix small annoying things. Let Fenix fix the A320 - where honestly, there is not much to fix, if at all 😂

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2 hours ago, Antipodeslonghaul said:

That Paris to Seoul flight and generally Western Europe to East Asia have been interesting. CDG-ICN great circle distance is 4832 nautical miles. With a good jetstream and no airspace restrictions across Siberia eastbound you could potentially make that in a little over 9 hours, even in a relatively "slow" A330. But the routes have been kind of interesting going around the Black and Capian Seas and Central Asia. Or going back eastbound when you're destination is actually westbound, head out across Japan, Alaska and polar ops back into Europe.

This is a real world route ZRH-HKG from yesterday. The flight took 12.5 hours. And yes, what a weird route:

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Do you guys know if IniBuilds are planning to make 330 for 2020?  I am not planning to move to 2024 for the nearest future and would be nice to fly that bird in 2020 skies...  

Aerosoft;s 330 I heard sucks... Or doesn't?

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9 minutes ago, zorro747 said:

Do you guys know if IniBuilds are planning to make 330 for 2020?  I am not planning to move to 2024 for the nearest future and would be nice to fly that bird in 2020 skies...  

Aerosoft;s 330 I heard sucks... Or doesn't?

No, they come included as default aircraft in 2024. They're not available as a standalone purchase for 2020 and I don't think they plan to.

Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R)

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4 hours ago, MikeH99 said:

Lol he's been busy.

He is a real A330 Pilot after all, so he will notice what is off.

I like it a lot but I have problems with it, when I start the descent it prefers to climb and does not descend at all even by selecting the descent rate and it remains in permanent climb without me being able to do anything. Also problem with the HDG. Does anyone have an idea of the problem. no way to complete a flight. I use the A330-300 RR with custom views.I have not used the other versions and the other flights are with the Fenix without any worries.

 

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3 hours ago, fsiscool said:

This is a real world route ZRH-HKG from yesterday. The flight took 12.5 hours. And yes, what a weird route:

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Ah, that is cool to see!

Compare to this one. Ok, it is an A350, not an A330, and the great circle distance is a bit shorter. But still 10:39 average flight time vs. 11:50 average on the one you showed (avoiding Russia).

 

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11 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

He reported a plethora of issues. It may fly decently but not realistically.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/u/emi737/activity/topics

 

Pretty sure his review, after his first flight of it, was pretty positive overall for both systems modeling and flight dynamics, saying that they are pretty accurate.


Link to quick review at the end of his flight if you're interested.

Edited by Kevin_28

So, 

I planned a short LPPR-LPPT, real time evening flight, with real rainy frontal weather, took the 333 GE and it was rather pleasant indeed.

Flightplan in SimBrief, imported throught the default Inibuilds EFB, takeoff calculations exported to the FMGC, and I was good to go... 

BATC and FSLTL, RealTurb v2 + ASFS added even more to the experience, but A330 wise it was pretty much acceptable / plausible!

Will explore longer flight, like Lisbon - Cancun and return 🙂

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11 hours ago, Simon_C said:

thus I try to stay away from default aircraft as much as possible (my personal opinion!)

This is what I've done for as long as I can remember (which is way before MSFS2020 was released). In a new sim, as soon as there are payware options available, I start using them. 

Which could explain why I was positively surprised by the A330. In fact, I think it's the first time in my simming "career" that I've enjoyed a default aircraft this much. 

Of course, this might change as more and more payware options are added to MSFS2024 (looking forward to iniBuilds A350!). But for now, my top airliners for MSFS2024 are the Fenix A32x and the iniBuilds A330. 

6 hours ago, Kevin_28 said:

Pretty sure his review, after his first flight of it, was pretty positive overall for both systems modeling and flight dynamics, saying that they are pretty accurate.


Link to quick review at the end of his flight if you're interested.

A330 driver's closing remarks after his first flight in the A330: "I've got to say, this is probably the best default aircraft I've flown in any simulator yet". 

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I finished OMAA-EIDW and when I landed, fuel use was 3400kg more than predicted. Another issue is that the aircraft needs excessive thrust to get moving on the ground - has anyone else noticed this?

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