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A350 iniBuilds - catastrophic release as never seen before

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I know this aircraft well and there are few problems with up-to-date liveries - for me just a concern of tiller working when it wants 

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  • Speedbird193
    Speedbird193

    So true. There's an awful lot of defending the developer and attacking the user going on. In my opinion, that only makes it worse and normalises the whole "we'll release it now to get the money in and

  • crimplene
    crimplene

    The A350 clearly has a lot of bugs and complaining is absolutely ok in my opinion. But every so often complains are presented in a very dramatic form. 🙂 Most prominent example in this thread is it's t

  • I didn't purchase this product, so I can't comment on it.   I completely agree with your initial statement.  However, I disagree with the new mentality that it's acceptable for a product to be

1.0.4 seems more stable for me, I managed to do 4 flights now without a WASM crash. However, still a long list of what I would class at least medium issues:

  • Auto tune still not working, major issue for BATC users and already a dozen threads on this on their forums.
  • Flight dynamics still feel weird.
  • Sudden pitch up/down after rotation still there.
  • Nose wheel steering totally wrong - no inertia, taxies like Mario Kart and I also get random extreme movements to the left/right on the nose wheel that are uncommanded when taxiing and make taxiing quite a challenge.
  • Sounds still need more work.
  • No option to chose a default panel state.
  • Displays have very low refresh rate at times.
  • FPS performance still far below Fenix.

Honestly from what I've seen so far, it doesn't cut it for me, specially for the price tag 😞

And I would really like to have a good A350 ...

Maybe one day they can fix it to a level that becomes acceptable ? Maybe FSLabs does something too?

I will wait...

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1 hour ago, Speedbird 217 said:

1.0.4 seems more stable for me, I managed to do 4 flights now without a WASM crash. However, still a long list of what I would class at least medium issues:

  • Auto tune still not working, major issue for BATC users and already a dozen threads on this on their forums.
  • Flight dynamics still feel weird.
  • Sudden pitch up/down after rotation still there.
  • Nose wheel steering totally wrong - no inertia, taxies like Mario Kart and I also get random extreme movements to the left/right on the nose wheel that are uncommanded when taxiing and make taxiing quite a challenge.
  • Sounds still need more work.
  • No option to chose a default panel state.
  • Displays have very low refresh rate at times.
  • FPS performance still far below Fenix.

And yet some Real World pilot youtubers say they like it ... which makes me stay with my own convictions and evaluations when it comes to flight dynamics and ground physics accuracy in MSFS...

You mention an aspect that is so so evident from any youtube one watches with the Ini A350 that it "makes me cry" 🙂  - the ground physics, or, better put it  - the lack of proper/ plausible ground physics, which supposedly are even using the new FS 2024 ground physics model 😏... with that ridiculous lack of inertia. 

Also the autoflight systems and the woobling during aproach and other phases of flight, even under perfectly good weather conditions...

 

Edited by jcomm

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13 minutes ago, jcomm said:

And yet some Real World pilot youtubers say they like it ...

 

1. guess what if they made videos saying it was rubbish no one would click on it to watch it and they wouldnt get any views

2. as i always say, come do my job for a month babysitting pilots,  they are not the heros you lot (and them) think they are

 
 
 
 
 
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23 minutes ago, jcomm said:

And yet some Real World pilot youtubers say they like it ... which makes me stay with my own convictions and evaluations when it comes to flight dynamics and ground physics accuracy in MSFS...

You mention an aspect that is so so evident from any youtube one watches with the Ini A350 that it "makes me cry" 🙂  - the ground physics, or, better put it  - the lack of proper/ plausible ground physics, which supposedly are even using the new FS 2024 ground physics model 😏... with that ridiculous lack of inertia. 

Also the autoflight systems and the woobling during aproach and other phases of flight, even under perfectly good weather conditions...

 

Absolutely. Ground handling is a joke right now and I dread hand flying it on approach. I've got hundreds of hours in the Fenix, PMDG 737 and 777 and they all behave like I would expect them to and they're a joy to hand fly. I've done a real A320 Level D motion sim at an airline and all of this felt believable.

The A350 flies really odd, it sort of bobs around on it's on, swings from left to right constantly...basically it hand flies like a Piper (which I have flown in the real world). I landed at EGLL yesterday, wind was VRB02 and it felt like I was flying a paper plane in a storm with constant corrections and bobbing on its own. I've done enough flights on the A350 as a passenger to know that it's very comfortable and stable and nothing like the ini. 

Ladies and gentleman just  imagine if Fenix or PMDG released a product like this at first stage. Would users be as sympathetic or criticized as they are not for one of the most hyped up airliners (A350) in flight sim history that did not turn out too well on release. Ini should be held at the same standard as PMDG and Fenix and did they manage that accomplishment yet? I don't   think so not even close.

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21 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

felt like I was flying a paper plane

Second that. I have to admit though that I did not yet apply the ini recommended hw settings for dead zones and such. Wanted to prevent it as I assume those kind of settings apply (in 2024) globally and all my other tubeliners behave nice like Fenix or FBW and I fear I may bork them for the benefit of the 350 behavior…

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4 minutes ago, DAD said:

Second that. I have to admit though that I did not yet apply the ini recommended hw settings for dead zones and such. Wanted to prevent it as I assume those kind of settings apply (in 2024) globally and all my other tubeliners behave nice like Fenix or FBW and I fear I may bork them for the benefit of the 350 behavior…

Don't they just recommend standard curves? I have a custom profile set up for Fenix based on their curves but I'm using the default curves for the ini, like they recommend in the manual/FAQ. Doesn't seem to make any difference.

26 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Absolutely. Ground handling is a joke right now and I dread hand flying it on approach. I've got hundreds of hours in the Fenix, PMDG 737 and 777 and they all behave like I would expect them to and they're a joy to hand fly. I've done a real A320 Level D motion sim at an airline and all of this felt believable.

The A350 flies really odd, it sort of bobs around on it's on, swings from left to right constantly...basically it hand flies like a Piper (which I have flown in the real world). I landed at EGLL yesterday, wind was VRB02 and it felt like I was flying a paper plane in a storm with constant corrections and bobbing on its own. I've done enough flights on the A350 as a passenger to know that it's very comfortable and stable and nothing like the ini. 

It doesn't feel like Piper to me. I have notice it little sensitive on longitudinal axis . Other than that it feels in par with PMDG 737 and 777 when flying bu hand. I do all my approaches manually I can't think of anything that feel like paper plane .

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16 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Ladies and gentleman just  imagine if Fenix or PMDG released a product like this at first stage. 

they wouldnt and they havent. Same as Tolis over at xplane. 

It puts inibuilds in the same category as Flight Factor. 

 
 
 
 
 
  913456

On my machine A350 is running fine - I'm getting better performance then fenix A320. Have done numerous flights with it, so far only encountered one issue where FMS was messed up after using Direct with abeam function on approach to Frankfurt. But other then that - quite fun to fly, Hand flying does take some time to get used to. 

1 hour ago, fluffyflops said:

guess what if they made videos saying it was rubbish no one would click on it to watch it

I would find a Reviewer being honest about weaknesses in an addon to be more trustworthy and well worth subscribing to.

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21 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I would find a Reviewer being honest about weaknesses in an addon to be more trustworthy and well worth subscribing to.

thats great, but the kids on youtube wouldnt watch it. The days of 25-65 year olds "simmers" using p3d are gone.  

The market is now aimed at younger "gamers"  and gamers like and respond to hype not logic.  They will simply just turn it off as its not hype and gimmicky.

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  913456

Running very nice now with latest patch.  My go to for long haul works just as good or better than the 77W.

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