36 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

So which ATC program do you consider a "finished " product today?

Default P3D.

2 minutes ago, Ident said:

where SI IFR and no premium voices is completely free!

Would SI work for someone who does not use a mic?  Is there a field to input requests to ATC as there is in BATC?

29 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Most of the time, especially at international airports, they just clear you for a departure procedure without giving you an initial altitude. There’s no “climb via” or “climb and maintain” they literally don’t give any initial altitude at all until you contact departure. That’s been an issue since the program released. The feedback I’ve gotten from their team is to “just look at the chart.” That’s all fine, but when there is no initial altitude on the plate, it can be frustrating that there’s such reluctance to acknowledge it’s an issue.

Can you show me one SID that doesnt have altitude restrictions or targets? Not saying there are none, just have never seen one as up until I see a SID that does, I have always been under the impression thats one of the main purposes of a SID.

1 minute ago, Noel said:

Would SI work for someone who does not use a mic?  Is there a field to input requests to ATC as there is in BATC?

Yeah. 

There is a chat box you can use. I'll tell it to "request clearance" and I'll get the controller speaking it.

After I take off I tell the Copilot to handle comms.

This is on the free Opensky version.

6 minutes ago, Ident said:

So if any wants to state a comparison it should be more like, BATC cost $30.00 for IFR with no premium voices where SI IFR and no premium voices is completely free!

Where do we get the completely free version?

5 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Default P3D.

I flew P3D for years, and don't remember any default ATC that worked...

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

Would SI work for someone who does not use a mic?  Is there a field to input requests to ATC as there is in BATC?

That isnt what SI seems to be created for. Which is why its great that BATC does offer that. However, in my opinion creating a program designed to use AI and only using it for keyboard strokes would be like designing a sportcar only to drive it in a parking lot. 

4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Where do we get the completely free version?

https://www.sayintentions.ai/opensky

Took about a week for me to move through the queue.

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Where do we get the completely free version?

While its coming to the public for free, PM me your email address and I will share one of my 6 left links I have to give out and you can be using it now.

4 minutes ago, Ident said:

While its coming to the public for free, PM me your email address and I will share one of my 6 left links I have to give out and you can be using it now.

Not interested, but thanks anyway. I have zero interest in the idea of having to talk to my PC while flying in a sim. 

12 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

Yeah. 

There is a chat box you can use. I'll tell it to "request clearance" and I'll get the controller speaking it.

After I take off I tell the Copilot to handle comms.

This is on the free Opensky version.

Thanks I better try this.  I used AutoHotKey in my work years ago and downloaded it so looking forward to creating some text strings I can copy in.  Would copy/paste work in the 'chat' box?

10 minutes ago, Ident said:

While its coming to the public for free, PM me your email address and I will share one of my 6 left links I have to give out and you can be using it now.

I'll take one as long as it can be used w/ the co-pilot and also the chat text box!  If I feel it's super good I would cough up the usage fees.  Sounds like about as much as common video streaming services.

Edited March 23, 20251 yr by Noel

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

I'll take one as long as it can be used w/ the co-pilot and also the chat text box!  If I feel it's super good I would cough up the usage fees.  Sounds like about as much as common video streaming services.

Just PM me your email address. I personally dont want it, but I have to put it in a box to get the invite to you which deducts from my 10 passes to give out.

 

6 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Everyone is just more entitled these days and expects fully working software (even when things clearly stated they are early access).

For me though, there's no real solid ATC program yet.  

FSX did it okay (unless terrain was involved lol).

I'm hoping WT puts more effort into the sim - I've offered my free support as well.

Yeah each and every ATC program ive tried has its pros and cons, i keep switching between them all trying to find the best... On topic i think its the general coldness displayed to people on their discord thats turned people sour... I still love the program tho, they have the best voices of any ATC ever so far.

5 minutes ago, Ident said:

Just PM me your email address. I personally dont want it, but I have to put it in a box to get the invite to you which deducts from my 10 passes to give out.

 

Thank you kindly for that!  I would like to sample the full deal though, so might I be better off doing the free 24h trial?