April 12, 20251 yr I don't know if you all have seen the latest post from PMDG - but apparently PMDG ops 2 to have reduced functionality from 30th June 2025 for P3D meaning no access to inhouse liveries or updates. Another good reason I am not going to invest in PMDG moving forward even in MSFS. Edited April 14, 20251 yr by Ray Proudfoot Change of title and some text in this post.
April 12, 20251 yr Moderator The statement is buried in a long post. Here’s the relevant bit… Further to that line of effort, we will be moving all of our legacy Prepar3D products to End-of-Lifecycle effective 30JUNE25. Beyond this date, we will no longer provide support for these products, although customers will still maintain access to them via their PMDG eCommerce accounts if they wish to install them. We have not released any new titles in Prepar3D for five years and obviously no more are forthcoming. This change should result in very little impact to customers, except that we will deprecate use of PMDG Operations Center 2 and that will reduce the tools effectiveness to only installing 3rd party liveries. I recognize that these changes will disappoint some users, but we have managed through these transitions previously and there is a natural flow of users to the newer platform. If there was only a small effort required to maintain work on both platforms we would continue to do so- but if we are to avoid getting mired in maintaining just the same products in a stagnant state, we must move with the majority of customers and recognize that progress is ever forward, even for a company like ours that prides itself in the long-term support of our products. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 13, 20251 yr This feels pretty bad. Bought the PMDG products back at the end of 2023… if only I knew PMDG was basically gonna completely shut it all down in less than 2 years.. wish they had some decency and at least let you download the planes in their up-to-date version, keep some bare minimum of operation center 2 working, etc. i9 14900K / Corsair Nautilus RS ARGB liquid CPU Cooler / MSI Z790 Tomahawk WiFi / 64GB Trident DDR5 RAM @ 7200 mhz / 24GB Gainward 3090 Geforce RTX / 2 TB SSD WD Black SN850X NVMe / 1 TB SSD Samsung 990 Pro series / 2 TB SSD Samsung 980 Pro Series / 500 gb and 250 gb SSD Samsung Evo 850 / RM1000W Corsair PSU - P3Dv5.4, X-Plane 12, X-Plane 11 and FSX
April 13, 20251 yr 36 minutes ago, Blasb said: This feels pretty bad. Bought the PMDG products back at the end of 2023… if only I knew PMDG was basically gonna completely shut it all down in less than 2 years.. wish they had some decency and at least let you download the planes in their up-to-date version, keep some bare minimum of operation center 2 working, etc. I think this is pretty clear: Quote Beyond this date, we will no longer provide support for these products, although customers will still maintain access to them via their PMDG eCommerce accounts if they wish to install them. David Porrett
April 13, 20251 yr Moderator I've posted on their forum as I'm unsure about what some of his statements mean especially regarding extra liveries. https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/351440-12apr25-your-weekend-update-on-nearly-all-things-pmdg?p=351658#post351658 @Blasb, I don't think it means you won't be able to fly aircraft you've purchased. That would be going too far. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 13, 20251 yr You can still use the present Ops App not a problem, Boeing got problems as well Airbus. Raymond Fry.
April 13, 20251 yr Perhaps just download all the liveries and keep them unused in your hangar. Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.
April 13, 20251 yr Ole Robert. Reminds me.There’s a song by Steve Miller Band. Take the Money and Run. Vic green
April 13, 20251 yr Moderator 51 minutes ago, G-RFRY said: You can still use the present Ops App not a problem, Boeing got problems as well Airbus. This statement appears to confirm what you say... "we will deprecate use of PMDG Operations Center 2 and that will reduce the tools effectiveness to only installing 3rd party liveries." I've installed around 15-20 extra liveries this morning and if users can continue to do so then everything would appear to be okay. I don't use the CC for any other purpose. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 13, 20251 yr LOL, they’re already calling MS2020 a dead sim . I would hate to be a horse or dog belonging to those people. As soon as a new one comes along you’re dead. Seems stability is not one of their favorite things. Vic green
April 13, 20251 yr 29 minutes ago, Patco Lch said: LOL, they’re already calling MS2020 a dead sim . Why are you straight-up lying about what they said? What's the point?
April 13, 20251 yr 34 minutes ago, chapstick said: Why are you straight-up lying about what they said? What's the point? https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/351440-12apr25-your-weekend-update-on-nearly-all-things-pmdg?p=351636#post351636 Vic green
April 13, 20251 yr PMDG just repeated what MS/Asobo says about 2020. It doesn't offer them (MS/Asobo) the "growth path" they need. My interpretation: "We've milked this as much as we can. We need a new source of revenue" MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
April 13, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, Patco Lch said: Ole Robert. Reminds me.There’s a song by Steve Miller Band. Take the Money and Run. Any opportunity to take a crack at this particular developer hey? Do you work for free? David Porrett
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