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Should / Will MSFS host their own Expo in the Future?

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In 2019, MSFS announced MSFS2020 during the same weekend as the FSExpo. The announcement was the biggest news in FlightSim history (reaction, speculation etc) and outshined the Expo itself.

Since then, we have had Expo’s where MSFS was the dominant sim / presenter, and even being absent this year, much of the news was MSFS related.

Last year Asobo complained about the location (Vegas being hot), was put in an expectant / impromptu Q&A session where one guy practically scolded them, and Jorge was reluctant to commit to a return for 2025. Low and behold, Asobo did not return in 2025 for “stated” reasons, but I believe that the writing was on the wall in the summer of 2024 before the MSFS2024 release / debacle.

In short MSFS is “big enough” to host their own Expo in a location and fashion that fits their persona. Coupled with their long reach of collaborations (from blockbuster movies to museums), MSFS can tailor an Expo to their liking, still have the same 3rd party attendance / showcases, and not have to share the stage with any competitors.

Unless I missed an announcement on the matter, I don’t think that MSFS / Asobo will return to another Expo. I think that once MSFS2024 is on a good spot, MSFS will (or should) host their own Expo in the future. I think that experience will be awesome, particularly looking at how they accommodated the press reviewers in the past.

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  • Yeah... no.. thanks   I may have been using MSFS exclusively since version 4 but i still want to see and experience what the competition has to offer.. especially at a flightsim expo .. Note

  • Cosford? It's a pity for sure, the last one I went to was before covid put an end to it, but I'm sad to hear it's not started back up again.    Isn't this what the X-Box gaming events are fo

  • Please just stop. Enough of the MSFS hyperbole. They had products at FSE for many simulations other than just a MS Expo. Get off your high horse, will ya. I kind of find this tread nonsense if you ask

I think with two large events, one in Europe, the other in the US, that the community is probably pretty saturated with conventions. There’s a significant financial component to attending and presenting at a convention, so I wonder if you would even get enough developers to make it worth it. And Microsoft has already sold you something, they don’t get much commercial upside out of throwing a party.

Yeah... no.. thanks

 

I may have been using MSFS exclusively since version 4 but i still want to see and experience what the competition has to offer.. especially at a flightsim expo .. Note ... a flight sim expo ... not a MSFS Expo.. 

Microsoft can use their Xbox showcase for that if they want exclusivity. 

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I agree w/ the general sentiment---no good reason for this. I doubt they'd have anywhere near enough to fill an entire 2-3 day event, anyway. And part of the fun of an expo is seeing everything in one spot. 

MSFS is big in flight sim, but that still means it's quite small in the grand scheme of things. I think that point can get lost when you're deep in the hobby. 

MSFS had nothing to do with FSExpo in 2019. MS announced MSFS at the MS new XBOX announcement by Phill Spencer. And in case you have not noticed MS carrying big cuts in the gaming franchise to save money. 

 

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Nah, MSFS doesn't need their own expo. It will cost them money and they may not make a profit out of it. Just let FSExpo occur as it normally does, and it ends up being an MSFS Expo anyways.  Most of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related at FSExpo.

This shows the strength of the MSFS 3rd party development scene, which is even stronger in 2025.

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2 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

MSFS had nothing to do with FSExpo in 2019. MS announced MSFS at the MS new XBOX announcement by Phill Spencer. And in case you have not noticed MS carrying big cuts in the gaming franchise to save money. 

This is a good point too - they're savaging their games division and closing entire studios (even ones that have shown products well under development, like the Perfect Dark reboot), there's no way they're going to shell out opex for a convention for a product that's already mature and selling licenses.

4 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Nah, MSFS doesn't need their own expo. It will cost them money and they may not make a profit out of it. Just let FSExpo occur as it normally does, and it ends up being an MSFS Expo anyways.  Most of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related at FSExpo.

This shows the strength of the MSFS 3rd party development scene, which is even stronger in 2025.

Please just stop. Enough of the MSFS hyperbole. They had products at FSE for many simulations other than just a MS Expo. Get off your high horse, will ya. I kind of find this tread nonsense if you ask me. Expo is not just about MSFS and a buggy MSFS2024.

Edit: message to the OP Microsoft already have their showcase and its called XBOX showcase. LOL.

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8 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Please just stop. Enough of the MSFS hyperbole. They had products at FSE for many simulations other than just a MS Expo. Get off your high horse, will ya. I kind of find this tread nonsense if you ask me. Expo is not just about MSFS and a buggy MSFS2024

Triggered?

Honestly, the point of this forum is for everyone to express their feelings and thoughts about MSFS.
If you dont like fellow forum member's thoughts/comments about MSFS, then perhaps you should limit yourself to the other forums on Avsim, specifically those catering for whatever your preferred sim product is.

 

17 minutes ago, c912039 said:

Triggered?


 

Not even close but nice try. I still fly 2020 or go back to another sim If I need too. Believe or not they're other options out more than MSFS that will be out there longer.

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6 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

MSFS had nothing to do with FSExpo in 2019. MS announced MSFS at the MS new XBOX announcement by Phill Spencer. And in case you have not noticed MS carrying big cuts in the gaming franchise to save money. 

But that's my point. MSFS had nothing to do with FSExpo that weekend, but yet had the biggest impact on the flight sim community that same weekend with an announcement "outside" of the Expo.

I worked at job that was going through major lay-offs etc while my department was hiring and giving special bonuses. Has any of Asobo-MSFS team been laid off? Last I heard, they expanded their staff for MSFS2024.

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6 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Nah, MSFS doesn't need their own expo. It will cost them money and they may not make a profit out of it. Just let FSExpo occur as it normally does, and it ends up being an MSFS Expo anyways.  Most of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related at FSExpo.

This shows the strength of the MSFS 3rd party development scene, which is even stronger in 2025.

But will they be interested in a profit at that point, or would this been seen as an investment / celebration that pay dividends later? Did they make a profit when they hosted the pre-release press reviewers?

And look at how much they have given away for "free" thus far when they could have made a profit. I would not see it as a means to make money, but a means further solidify the brand and present an Expo where they have complete control of the event.  

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4 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Please just stop. Enough of the MSFS hyperbole. They had products at FSE for many simulations other than just a MS Expo. Get off your high horse, will ya. I kind of find this tread nonsense if you ask me. Expo is not just about MSFS and a buggy MSFS2024.

Do you understand the meaning of "most"?  Maybe you should read my comment again:

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 Most of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related at FSExpo.

"Most" is not the same as "all."  Now if I said "all," that would be hyperbole.  But "most" of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related, and this would be consistent with MSFS's market share.  Of course there were other non-hardware announcements that weren't related to MSFS, but they were the minority.  Hence the word, "most," which you don't seem to understand.

4 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Please just stop.

Since you are asking me to stop, can you stop posting in the MSFS forums? You only ever bring negativity, and this latest comment of yours is just nonsense, especially because you can't differentiate between "most" and "all."

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8 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Nah, MSFS doesn't need their own expo. It will cost them money and they may not make a profit out of it. Just let FSExpo occur as it normally does, and it ends up being an MSFS Expo anyways.  Most of the non-hardware announcements were MSFS related at FSExpo.

This shows the strength of the MSFS 3rd party development scene, which is even stronger in 2025.

No.  It doesn't.  Minimizing the hard work of every single person who makes the expo possible is beneath even you.  Although it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.  It's a flight sim expo.  Which includes people from FSA, FSElite, Laminar, Winwings, more streamers than I care to count, and a multitude of other people who work hard to make the expo, and flight simming, what it is.  

The only MSFS related elements of the expo that I saw, because I was actually there for all 3 days, was the inibuilds booth, the PMDG booth, and Toliss' announcement.  If there was more MSFS related content there, not much was done to make it visible.  

By the way, more people attended this year, without Asobo's attendance, than last year, with Asobo's attendance.  There's your MSFS expo.

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8 minutes ago, GoranM said:

No.  It doesn't.  Minimizing the hard work of every single person who makes the expo possible is beneath even you.  Although it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.  It's a flight sim expo.  Which includes people from FSA, FSElite, Laminar, Winwings, and a multitude of other people who work hard to make the expo, and flight simming, what it is.  

The only MSFS related elements of the expo that I saw, because I was actually there for all 3 days, was the inibuilds booth, the PMDG booth, and Toliss' announcement.  If there was more MSFS related content there, not much was done to make it visible.  

By the way, more people attended this year, without Asobo's attendance, than last year, with Asobo's attendance.  There's your MSFS expo.

Did you miss the title of this topic? And do you also not understand the meaning of "most"? The OP said, why doesn't MSFS create an expo of their own. I responded to the OP and said they shouldn't, because if most of the announcements at FSExpo that are not hardware related, end up being about MSFS, then the MSFS team can save a lot of money from creating their own expo.

Obviously, it's not 100% an MSFS expo for non-hardware related announcement, that's why I said "most." Most is not 100%.

BTW, are you and @JBDB-MD80 about to derail a thread again? You have a habit of derailing threads and getting them locked here at the MSFS forum. 

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