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Tell me about BeyondATC… I think it’s time

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14 hours ago, psolk said:

Still no ability to run it as a remote client on a separate machine?  

Add my desire for this, still in a hold pattern to see how BATC evolves, but it looks promising and I’m hoping the subscription model is sufficient to keep development going.

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    My two cents.  I bought it and tried it but don't use it right now.  I figure I'll try it once a month or so to see where it improves.  I also tried SI for about a month before I figured to cancel and

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1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

Add my desire for this, still in a hold pattern to see how BATC evolves, but it looks promising and I’m hoping the subscription model is sufficient to keep development going.

I plan to use this... https://flightsim.to/file/87091/batc-remote-control-for-tablet-browser-using-aao

But then I already have AAO for a lot of Guenseli's Streamdeck profiles.

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I tried an IFR flight (by accident - more on that below) and it was a throwback to 2020...

  • Climb and maintain 4900 feet
  • 30 seconds later:  Descend to 3200 feet
  • 10 seconds later: Climb and maintain 4400 feet

Note I accidentally had visual aids enabled to show where I should be in the sky, and these instructions didn't even match the visual aids!!!  How can the part of the sim that knows where I should fly, not be connected with the part of the sim giving me instructions to fly it?!?!

Don't ever change Asobo! 

It's just mind-boggling to me that this still is still not fixed 5 years later in a 2nd gen of this sim!!!

EDIT: I need to ask about IFR vs VFR... I chose a departure and arrival airport and it somehow defaulted to IFR. I couldn't see any way to check if it was VFR or IFR. Where is that option?

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12 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Am I overly limiting myself by not wanting to do flight planning in Sim Brief?

You will have less in the way of options by not using it.

Although as long as you can export then you can load any route into Simbrief, but you could end up with issues because the Navdata sets won't match up. Worst case with that, you find it annoying and feel the need to get a Navigraph (data) subscription.

I used to do all my route planning in LNM and then export to Simbrief, now 95% of the time I'll take one of the Simbrief routes..

 

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Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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12 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I've found the default 2024 ATC to be reasonably good at VFR services (at least in the USA).

I shared your position (I'm in love with the US Flight Following) but recently I'm discouraged with the MSFS2024 user interface (https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/atc-window-is-more-frustrating/665499/17😞 buggy when resized, hardly support second monitor, closest airfield list has never been testing by a human, randomly loose keyboard shortcut so convenient to avoid having the window opened to acknowledge, dead-end in multiple choice (zero choices)...
 

And although all WT's effort, interacting with ATC with a keyboard via a multiple choice lists, looks like 2000's technology compared to SayIntentions and BeyondATC. Where is AI (magic word in 2025) in the MSFS furthermore it's a Microsoft Product. We benefit from Azure all backend infra but the AI/Copilot blabla is non-existent in MSFS.

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6 hours ago, vbazillio said:

And although all WT's effort, interacting with ATC with a keyboard via a multiple choice lists, looks like 2000's technology compared to SayIntentions and BeyondATC. Where is AI (magic word in 2025) in the MSFS furthermore it's a Microsoft Product. We benefit from Azure all backend infra but the AI/Copilot blabla is non-existent in MSFS.

It looks like MSFS's ATC is just a "skeleton" of ATC, as it is with P3D and FSX, same old tech.

It almost looks like MS/Asobo have been leaving that part (AI ATC) to third parties so far...which is kind of odd as MS touts its Azure product etc. etc.   If I were designing a sim, I would leave career-mode-type apps to 3rd parties and INSTEAD I would devote that development time to AI-based ATC.  Show off Azure and other technologies!

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If you fly IFR I recommend BATC 100%. It works fine for me 95% of the time.

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42 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

If you fly IFR I recommend BATC 100%. It works fine for me 95% of the time.

Yeah, I'm going to give it a shot.

It's a shame that it doesn't yet support VFR and that it doesn't work with the in-sim planner, but it does sound like the best option.

Thankfully I can use it on my iPad thank's to Guenseli's AAO mod.

Thanks to all that chimed in.

1 hour ago, Virtual-Chris said:

 

Thanks to all that chimed in.

You are welcome.

I really like it. Mostly for improved atc and traffic injection. vfr support would be nice. 

i guess i kind of pretend im doing a flight following when using ga planes.

Ohhhh i have a question! does batc have ga planes as traffic? i haven't seen any. 

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31 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

I really like it. Mostly for improved atc and traffic injection. vfr support would be nice. 

i guess i kind of pretend im doing a flight following when using ga planes.

Ohhhh i have a question! does batc have ga planes as traffic? i haven't seen any. 

I see GA all the time.

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I see GA all the time.

In the air. Cause I never see any. Did you do something special

Are you talking msfs atc and traffic or Batc

 

Ron

MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.

Just now, Ron Lefebvre said:

In the air. Cause I never see any. Did you do something special

Are you talking msfs atc and traffic or Batc

 

I only fly GA aircraft lately, maybe that is why. 

 

 

 

On 7/18/2025 at 8:09 PM, Virtual-Chris said:

Yeah, I'm going to give it a shot.

It's a shame that it doesn't yet support VFR and that it doesn't work with the in-sim planner, but it does sound like the best option.

Thankfully I can use it on my iPad thank's to Guenseli's AAO mod.

Thanks to all that chimed in.

If you have any questions, problems etc. come to the BATC discord, it's about 40000 people by now and you'll get help/info within a minute: https://discord.gg/VSB99Wce

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

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1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

If you have any questions, problems etc. come to the BATC discord, it's about 40000 people by now and you'll get help/info within a minute: https://discord.gg/VSB99Wce

I really just want to know when VFR support will arrive. It seems they’ve been saying it’s on their roadmap for a year. 

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