October 4, 2025Oct 4 yeah I'm no so sure on the "patience" side of things, melted buildings have been an issue for 5 years already. It's annoying because it's one of those areas whereby when it doesn't happen it looks fantastic, when it does happen it looks like a dogs breakfast, there's no middle ground. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
October 4, 2025Oct 4 Streaming is the way to go, I guess... I haven't had any problems with that in FS 2024, although I do not have PG enabled because I prefer to save CPU / GPU / Net for other stuff since my resources aren't great... FS 2024 is th esmoothest ride I have ever experienced in desktop flight simulation, specially for the level of graphical details it offers, even at mid settings! Having even more users in the MSFS ecosystem is certainly feed the developers, and MS / ASOBO, which is what we and they need after all to keep it growing and shining !!! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
October 4, 2025Oct 4 19 hours ago, HiFlyer said: I also wonder if building "footprint" matching and melted tree blob removal is a bit less accurate now, than when blackshark was handling it..... That's certainly my feeling. Obviously I can't "prove" anything, but that's definitely the vibe for me. PG is like a lot of other aspects in 2024, hugely improved in some ways, massively worse in others. To my eyes, anyway. Ryzen 9 7900X, Corsair H150 AIO cooler, 64 Gb DDR5, Asus X670E Hero m/b, 3090ti, 13Tb NVMe, 8Tb SSD, 16Tb HD, 55" Philips 4k HDR monitor, EVGA 1600w ps, all in Corsair 7000D airflow case. Sims in use - 2020, 2024, XP-12 and -11, FSX/SE, P3Dv4.5 and v5.4. DCS and AFS2 installed but rarely used
October 4, 2025Oct 4 17 hours ago, CarlosF said: I think it is a matter of patience, eventually all these issues will be addressed with server updates. Patience is a virtue! How long? 5 years (already achieved), 7 years, ten years? - Harry 9800x3D (Strix x870e-E) - 64GB RAM (DDR5 6000, CL 30) - RTX 5090, 34'' 1440p OLED HDR - Windows 11 Pro (1TB M.2) - MSFS 2024 (MS Store, 4TB M.2).
October 4, 2025Oct 4 double post Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Nemo - Harry 9800x3D (Strix x870e-E) - 64GB RAM (DDR5 6000, CL 30) - RTX 5090, 34'' 1440p OLED HDR - Windows 11 Pro (1TB M.2) - MSFS 2024 (MS Store, 4TB M.2).
October 4, 2025Oct 4 23 hours ago, HiFlyer said: I really really hate that autogen turns gas storage tanks into round buildings with big windows....... I haven't seen that but turning two story houses, in subdivisions. to multistory buildings is a turnoff. I guess they need zoning codes in their algorithm, i7-10700 CPU @2.90 GHz, 32 GB Ram, nVadia GTX1660ti, Samsung 1 TB SSD Drive
October 4, 2025Oct 4 On 10/3/2025 at 2:15 PM, HiFlyer said: .....And I also wonder if building "footprint" matching.......is a bit less accurate now, than when blackshark was handling it..... Poor building "footprint" matching would be another reason for me to worry about updating to MSFS 2024 Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 4, 2025Oct 4 1 minute ago, Christopher Low said: Poor building "footprint" matching would be another reason for me to worry about updating to MSFS 2024 I wouldn't say it was "poor" just perhaps not as precise as I seem to remember. Which could also be an artifact of me being gob smacked at MSFS2020 and a bit more jaded and picky by the release of 2024.... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 4, 2025Oct 4 29 minutes ago, Roy Warren said: I haven't seen that but turning two story houses, in subdivisions. to multistory buildings is a turnoff. I guess they need zoning codes in their algorithm, Most of their building info comes from open Street Map We know this from A. Looking at the autogen config fines, they mention OSM and OSM tags B. That super tall building in Melbourne when 2020 released was traced back to an old edit on OSM with a typo on the number of floors section. If a building doesn’t have a defined height, I’m guessing MSFS just uses whatever default values are in the autogen files for that region and building type Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Tuskin38
October 4, 2025Oct 4 23 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: Poor building "footprint" matching would be another reason for me to worry about updating to MSFS 2024 The building footprint is the same between both sims. At least it is in my home town. Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Tuskin38
October 4, 2025Oct 4 On 10/3/2025 at 10:15 AM, HiFlyer said: And I also wonder if building "footprint" matching and melted tree blob removal is a bit less accurate now, than when blackshark was handling it..... blackshark never removed tree blobs in photogrammetry. Photogrammetry implementation has always been on Microsoft’s side. Blackshark was only working on autogen buildings and models. And I’m pretty sure Blackshark and Microsoft stopped working together around 2021, as there have been no new autogen building designs or any mention of Blackshark since I believe world update 6 Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Tuskin38
October 4, 2025Oct 4 10 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: black shark never removed tree blobs in photogrammetry. Frowns. My vague memory was of Asobo mentioning finding building heights from shadows, footprints from satellite data and something about mapping out a zillion trees, and.... I think it was during the Blackshark partnership rollout. But then, its been a while. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 4, 2025Oct 4 7 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: Frowns. My vague memory was of Asobo mentioning finding building heights from shadows, footprints from satellite data and something about mapping out a zillion trees, and.... I think it was during the Blackshark partnership rollout. But then, its been a while. Autogen buildings and trees yes, but not photogrammetry Probably for areas that lack OSM data must be a mix of sources, because my house is not on OSM, but it’s the correct shape (though not height) in the sim and on Bing maps. Yet you can’t see the shape of the building from satellite imagery the trees obscure it. Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Tuskin38
October 4, 2025Oct 4 This has been the experience in both sims for a while now. Still fly in 2020 sometimes and see it. 2024 as well. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
October 4, 2025Oct 4 it really depends on the quality of the photogrammetry, your internet speed and the MSFS servers behaving. Like the new Tokyo photogrammetry looks amazing. Edited October 4, 2025Oct 4 by Tuskin38
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