4 hours ago, Dillon said:

Asobo can totally bring the 2024 Longitude into 2020.🤔

If folks want the 2024 version of the Longitude, they should buy MSFS 2024.

 

21 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

If folks want the 2024 version of the Longitude, they should buy MSFS 2024.

 

Why? Quite a few 2024 addons are being backported to 2020. It shouldn't be too difficult.

8 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

If folks want the 2024 version of the Longitude, they should buy MSFS 2024.

 

Can't argue with this but something about this version gives me pause.🤔  Maybe it's the overly cumbersome controller configuration settings,  overly reliant on streaming (adversely affecting some of us with buffer bloat that we can't do anything about thanks to lake of competition from our internet providers😒), many favorite add-ons haven't been came over yet, or the many experienced simmers out there confessing 2024 is still not prime time.  2020 just works for what it does and I have a nice alternative to the Longitude that gives me the whole aircraft virtually.

At some point I'll make the switch.🙃

Edited November 7, 2025Nov 7 by Dillon

4 hours ago, Dillon said:

the many experienced simmers out there confessing 2024 is still not prime time.

Who are the many experienced simmers out there confessing FS2024 is still not prime time?   

I understand you haven't bought FS2024 yet, so haven't directly experienced it, but anyone who purports that 2024 is still not prime time, seriously should not be taken seriously.   

Sure, it was a horrific mess at launch.   As of now, I personally think it's the most polished flight sim we've ever had, one year into release.

You go back a long way Dillon and I know you're very conservative about MS version upgrades.  I recall your die-hard refusal to move to FSX, and instead you stayed with FS2004 for a long time, back in the day! 😄

But honestly, given all the additional features, better visuals, improved FDE, etc, etc (PS... 'Career' is of no interest to me - I'm talking core sim) and the fact that - for me at least - PC performance is waaaaaayy better in 2024 than 2020, I can't think of any reason why anyone would still be using 2020.

Edited November 7, 2025Nov 7 by JYW

6 hours ago, Dillon said:

Can't argue with this but something about this version gives me pause.🤔  Maybe it's the overly cumbersome controller configuration settings,  overly reliant on streaming (adversely affecting some of us with buffer bloat that we can't do anything about thanks to lake of competition from our internet providers😒), many favorite add-ons haven't been came over yet, or the many experienced simmers out there confessing 2024 is still not prime time.  2020 just works for what it does and I have a nice alternative to the Longitude that gives me the whole aircraft virtually.

At some point I'll make the switch.🙃

There’s nuggets of truth in here, and we all have our thresholds for transitioning to new things. 

But “not ready for prime time” simply isn’t accurate. 

if favorite addons held me back, I’d still be mainlining P3D. Instead, I just leave it installed for those times I want them  

and “cumbersome controls” is still somewhat valid, but I’ll tell ya, it works very well once the admittedly complex methodology clicks for you 

im not criticizing your choice to stick with 2020, but I do highly recommend you at least stick your toes in the water with 2024. 
you may find you stick with 2020 for certain things, but there is just as much to enjoy with 2024 

🤙

6 hours ago, Dillon said:

many favorite add-ons haven't been came over yet, or the many experienced simmers out there confessing 2024 is still not prime time

What addons?

And how do you define experienced simmers?

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

What addons?

And how do you define experienced simmers?

FS2024 Third Party Aircraft Compatibility List (Unofficial) - Discussion Hub / Aircraft - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

I made it easy on myself to show you a couple of the many out there.  These are a couple months olds as I haven't really paid attention as of late.  That being said, the BS Baron/Bonanza update (v0.1.1) just came out so I have far better things to do at the moment then have this debate.🙃

Edited November 7, 2025Nov 7 by Dillon

Well I prefer first hand experience over what other people say.

I switched to 2024 full time in December when the Fenix got its experimental 2024 update, and since then all of the addons I used in 2020 that didn't work in 2024 out of the box now do, other than Flow.

Edited November 7, 2025Nov 7 by Tuskin38

On 11/7/2025 at 8:23 PM, Dillon said:

FS2024 Third Party Aircraft Compatibility List (Unofficial) - Discussion Hub / Aircraft - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

I made it easy on myself to show you a couple of the many out there.  These are a couple months olds as I haven't really paid attention as of late.  That being said, the BS Baron/Bonanza update (v0.1.1) just came out so I have far better things to do at the moment then have this debate.🙃

That video from Mark is many weeks (if not months) old!  He is permanently 2024 now and regularly extols it's virtues and superiority over 2020!

Time moves fast in the FS world.  We all know that 2024 was a mess on release and there are many videos from many "experienced" simmers out there, that pointed this out at the time.

As far as I know, all the 'well known' FS YouTubers are 2024 now - at least the vast majority of the time.

PS.... YouTube Content Creators does not necessarily equate to "experienced".   There are many of the 'big names' that really lack base knowledge. It really irks me because they take on an assumed authority as though they really are experts, then don't know a turn co-ordinator from a ADI, or think that FLC mode is for the autothrottle.

I'll not get personal on here because I know some of you worship these people, but there are 2 big names in particular that get referenced here as though they are authoritative experts, when in fact they are really lacking in base general knowledge.    One is male, one is female!

Edited November 8, 2025Nov 8 by JYW

7 hours ago, JYW said:

¡Ese vídeo de Mark tiene varias semanas (si no meses) de antigüedad! ¡Ahora vive permanentemente en 2024 y no deja de alabar sus virtudes y su superioridad sobre 2020!

El tiempo pasa rápido en el mundo de FS. Todos sabemos que 2024 fue un desastre en su lanzamiento y hay muchos videos de muchos simuladores "experimentados" que lo señalaron en ese momento.

Hasta donde sé, todos los YouTubers "conocidos" de FS son de 2024 ahora, al menos la gran mayoría del tiempo.

PD: Ser creador de contenido de YouTube no necesariamente equivale a ser "experimentado". Hay muchos de los "grandes nombres" que realmente carecen de conocimientos básicos. Realmente me irrita porque asumen una autoridad como si realmente fueran  expertos  , luego no saben distinguir un coordinador de viraje de un ADI, o piensan que el modo FLC es para el acelerador automático.

No me pondré personal aquí porque sé que algunos de ustedes idolatran a estas personas, pero hay 2 grandes nombres en particular que se mencionan aquí como si fueran expertos autorizados, cuando en realidad carecen de conocimientos generales básicos. ¡Uno es hombre, la otra es mujer!

One of the best comments I've read here in a long time.

Thanks everyone who responded - I did end up getting it anyway since it was on sale however as many of you have mentioned it is a significant downgrade from C750 which I'm used to. Again it is default Asobo plane so I was not expecting anything better anyway but G3000 is neat feature certainly gets the job done. Loading weight and balance is big headache though, Unlike in third party aircraft where it is either managed by tablet or FMC, loading payload and fuel via default UI is no fun. Navigraph integration is already included in G3000 - I still don't understand why didn't asobo made simbrief integration with regards to loading fuel and payload. Other then that good bird to fly into if one is looking for change from C750. 

Can anyone explain how do I go about putting correct fuel and payload into this? I try to put in the values via default fuel and payload ui however soon after it automatically changes values again to something else. 

Why not start a new post for fuel loading problem?

2 hours ago, CAP1234 said:

Gracias a todos por sus respuestas. Al final lo compré porque estaba en oferta, pero como muchos comentaron, es una versión inferior al C750 al que estoy acostumbrado. Como es el avión predeterminado de Asobo, no esperaba nada mejor, pero el G3000 es una función útil que cumple su cometido. Sin embargo, cargar el peso y el balance es un verdadero dolor de cabeza. A diferencia de aviones de terceros, donde se gestiona mediante una tableta o el FMC, cargar la carga útil y el combustible a través de la interfaz predeterminada es un engorro. La integración con Navigraph ya está incluida en el G3000; sigo sin entender por qué Asobo no integró Simbrief para cargar el combustible y la carga útil. Por lo demás, es un buen avión para quienes buscan una alternativa al C750. 

¿Alguien me puede explicar cómo introducir los valores correctos de combustible y carga útil? Intento introducirlos mediante la interfaz de usuario predeterminada, pero al poco tiempo los cambia automáticamente. 

The best thing about this aircraft is everything that goes on inside it. It has nothing to do with the C750, for me  in terms of system simulation; it is in the top three of this type of aircraft for any simulator.

 

 

23 hours ago, vonmar said:

Why not start a new post for fuel loading problem

I mean technically it made sense to ask in same thread, it is after all about Longitude. 

I fly the Latitude in real life and love the Longitude however nobody here has mentioned how atrocious the sounds are... FTSIM was able to really do a good sound set for the 2020 version, and even today that is a great jet to fly I have featured it on my youtube channel. However, Asobo won't allow anyone to break in to mod the sounds in the 2024 version that is streaming, and it has horrible sounds. nothing like the real aircraft which I am basically flying today... That is the only hold back to a great product - one that won't be solved soon unless asobo opens it up to 3rd party access.....