14 minutes ago, Mace said:

Therefore, he's either grossly misinformed (at least as to A2A) or is trolling.

Take it up with the OP. I’m just here to ensure forum rules are adhered to.

I would just like to see fair moderation when it comes to these type of topics. 

17 hours ago, whamil77 said:

The airplanes fly like (enter bad word here) and the systems suck.  All of them including Black Square, A2A, FLYSIMWARE, and Blackbird.

The way you describe your views is pretty dramatic. I'm glad I don't feel the same as you. Being a real world pilot myself (but only light aircraft and not as many years experience as you) I couldn't disagree more with everything you find 'unacceptable'. Actually I find your snobby remarks pretty condescending towards very renowned developers, who all have worked hard to create realistic aircraft. MSFS isn't perfect, but it's far from the horror you describe.

 

17 hours ago, whamil77 said:

MSFS is a child's toy to be played on XBox by kids that should be doing their homework.  It is an intro to pretty graphics and has nothing to do with flying actual airplanes.  It does not cater to us

Oh dear, another one of those smug and superior opinions. I really don't get them. Please don't talk about 'us'. I definitely do not see things as negatively as you do, like many other 'serious' simmers in these forums.

 

17 hours ago, whamil77 said:

I went and looked a XPlane12 briefly.  It looks like a comic book

It seems you forgot what P3D looks like, lol. But to each their own. I suggest you be like moderator Ray and start playing that abandoned sim again.

Any more of questioning moderation will not be tolerated!  Get my drift? 🥷

All that really matters here are the facts and numbers.  Consider those and then why we all have to call MSFS2024 the GOAT of flight simming.

Just 1 metric,  DLC sales is probably 100x the nearest contender.

Sounds like a GOAT to me.

dd

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Sky_Pilot071

1 hour ago, Rimshot said:

I suggest you be like moderator Ray and start playing that abandoned sim again.

Why does it bother you what sim I fly? I couldn’t care less what sim people fly. The only reason I got involved in this topic was to issue a warning and holiday to a member who was grossly insulting towards another member.

 

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Ray Proudfoot
Edited as one member found the original term racist.

48 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I couldn’t care less what sim people fly.

Neither do I Ray, please don't take my remark the wrong way. It's just that the OP expressed his preference for P3D, like you also do in some occasions.

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Ray Proudfoot
Quoted comment changed so as not to cause offence.

54 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

I’m surprised with your attitude Ryan. I always thought you as one of the more levelheaded members here.

I still am.  

Hi,

I beg to differ! I run X-Plane 12 with the zibo mod in a six figure 737 dual trainer, the 738 mod performs very close to the multi million dollar simulators I've had the privilege to use over the years. Although the last couple of update from Zibo (17, 18) have lost some of that heavy feel. I've since replaced a couple of airfoil files to return the mod back to that heavy feel.

The eye candy may not be there in XP12, but it is a far better "Flight Simulator" than MSFS2024 could ever hope to be! If you want eye candy, 2024 is your sim, want better flight dynamics X-Plane should be your sim of choice.

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Mike_CFII_MEL

And don't forget, the real toy sims are the ones nobody uses.

dd

I'm very happy with my version of MSFS 2020 and I know that one day v. 2024 will be just as good.

But, what do I know about flight simming? I'm just a gamer.

22 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

The eye candy may not be there in XP12, but it is a far better "Flight Simulator" than MSFS2024 could ever hope to be!

Funny, somehow we enter a sim vs sim discussion again, lol. How on earth is that possible?? For the record, I disagree. Strongly 😊