4 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I tend to prefer step by step printable PDF tutorials, so that I can study them at leisure, and also at my own pace.

4 hours ago, RobJC said:

I have been taking knowledge from youtube videos and checklists from multiple sources, and then condensing them down into one checklist i use, throwing it on a spreadsheet. I have one tab for each plane, and with each flight i refine them just a bit further. I think this is the way to go, but that’s me. 

I used to take notes while watching vids (sometimes feeling like I was back in school!).

But I’ve shifted to copy/pasting transcripts out of the better YT videos and running them through AI to clean up into documentation and/or checklists.

WAAAAY faster method and I can actually watch/enjoy the vid first.

I also take whatever documentation is either included with the addon or otherwise available and run THAT through AI, and with a few prompts, and in very short order, it serves up a preferred version of the documentation.

I generally take either form of output and throw it into MS OneNote, which is perfect for this sort of thing

So, instead of asking AI to teach me how to fly the plane, I use it to reformat known-good info sources pretty much exactly the way I want it. 

19 hours ago, jcomm said:

being a great fan of Toliss on X-Plane, I think that Fenix and even more FSlabs also offer quite sophisticated airbuses.

There’s no question on the fidelity offered by FS Labs or Fenix. but they have limited themselves to the single-aisle A32x’s. 

AFAIK, the AS/ToLiss will be the first wide body long haul offered at the same high level of fidelity as FSL/Fenix. 

7 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

I used to take notes while watching vids (sometimes feeling like I was back in school!).

But I’ve shifted to copy/pasting transcripts out of the better YT videos and running them through AI to clean up into documentation and/or checklists.

WAAAAY faster method and I can actually watch/enjoy the vid first.

I also take whatever documentation is either included with the addon or otherwise available and run THAT through AI, and with a few prompts, and in very short order, it serves up a preferred version of the documentation.

I generally take either form of output and throw it into MS OneNote, which is perfect for this sort of thing

So, instead of asking AI to teach me how to fly the plane, I use it to reformat known-good info sources pretty much exactly the way I want it. 

That sounds very good. Thanks I will try that. 

10 hours ago, jcomm said:

Many simmers are more concerned with wingflex than with any details about how the sim models aeroelasticity, so, I guess Gliding Wiki chose to have sliders to please the full range of users 🙂

These days, having no wingflex is a genuine distraction for me. 

I realize it’s a purely visual aspect, but I take it as a prime indicator of an unfinished addon. I.e., if the dev can’t take the time to even fake a bit of flex, what else are they faking…?

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

"one of our goals as a company is to become platform independent"

Given the old Flight Factor A320 being similar in its ethos, and that Flight Factor is a Boeing shop, AND that FF is collaborating with ToLiss on the A350 for XP…

I’ve always wondered if ToLiss wasn’t in on the FF A320…

Cant find any corroborating info, but it is a rather curious coincidence, IMHO. 

Chewwy94 is streaming it now. EGLL-KJFK

Not the full flight, he wants to test the jump to waypoint feature.

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

https://fselite.net/content/inside-the-development-of-the-a340-600-for-msfs-an-interview-with-aerosoft-toliss/

Interesting Toliss says in this video that "one of our goals as a company is to become platform independent". This tracks with what they said in an earlier video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJeN86eHhg about developing the flight model to be external to the sims (similar to their engine model already being external in XP), etc.

They also say a bunch of improvements got done in the FM, flight control laws, EFB, systems, etc as a consequence of developing this aircraft and them taking a second look at things, and those will flow back to the XP versions in the future.

They'll talk about future collaborations after this releases, based on community feedback. "It's obviously on our minds, only wise to get feedback and how it works before any other decisions are made solidly". Also didn't know they were mostly a two-person husband and wife team!
 

If this A340 sells well and Toliss makes some good money on it, I am going to guess they will be back for more projects for MSFS. When you make a nice return on a specific platform, you have an incentive to return again.

6 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

If this A340 sells well and Toliss makes some good money on it, I am going to guess they will be back for more projects for MSFS. When you make a nice return on a specific platform, you have an incentive to return again.

Hopefully an a330 🤞

21 minutes ago, ianb2469 said:

Hopefully an a330 🤞

With a freighter variant too!

Btw, I find weird that Toliss is only doing the -600 and ignoring the -500. It seems like they already did most of the effort. Why not go for the -500 too? Same for a version with the P2F interior

From their discord:
 

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Tomorrow we’re flying the A340 on Stream! And… we can finally reveal something else as well Stay tuned - Stream starting tomorrow at 13:00 UTC!

Hopefuly we will get a release date tomorrow

1 hour ago, UrgentSiesta said:

These days, having no wingflex is a genuine distraction for me. 

I realize it’s a purely visual aspect, but I take it as a prime indicator of an unfinished addon. I.e., if the dev can’t take the time to even fake a bit of flex, what else are they faking…?

Agree to some respect. Since Toliss are are responsible for the systems work i cant lay my concerns at their feet as from what i have been seeing they have done a very good job. Aerosoft on the other hand has me questioning their texturing choices and wingflex behavior. (And a touch of engine wobble would have been nice)

I probably will end up purchasing this still based on Toliss involvement.. but i'm not getting wowed by Aerosoft's part of it..... as yet

Edited March 9Mar 9 by Maxis

Based on the presentation style (very casual for a premium product, in my opinion...), the publisher's far from professional marketing, and my decades of experience with Aerosoft, I suspect again someone is just trying to make a quick buck before the artificially inflated hype dies down and Fenix (or someone else) comes along with a new, truly superb aircraft. Nothing against Toliss - but - Hallöchen! - I don't trust the rest at all (anymore). 

34 minutes ago, MrLamb said:

Based on the presentation style (very casual for a premium product, in my opinion...), the publisher's far from professional marketing, and my decades of experience with Aerosoft, I suspect again someone is just trying to make a quick buck before the artificially inflated hype dies down and Fenix (or someone else) comes along with a new, truly superb aircraft. Nothing against Toliss - but - Hallöchen! - I don't trust the rest at all (anymore). 

So... Your opinion is based on the Marketing and the publisher, not the product?... ooook i guess.

In my case, I dont fly the marketing or the publisher, or the interviews... I fly the product. And so far it looks amazing. Can you point to something in the product that makes you think this isnt a "truly superb aircraft"? Its a genuine question.

Chewwy tried the teleport to waypoint on stream, and the plane just nosedived after loading.

WIP product and all that.

1 hour ago, Maxis said:

Agree to some respect. Since Toliss are are responsible for the systems work i cant lay my concerns at their feet as from what i have been seeing they have done a very good job. Aerosoft on the other hand has me questioning their texturing choices and wingflex behavior. (And a touch of engine wobble would have been nice)

I probably will end up purchasing this still based on Toliss involvement.. but i'm not getting wowed by Aerosoft's part of it..... as yet

I’m sure I’ve read a couple of lead developers saying that these days it isn’t good enough just to have good systems it needs to be the full package. For me certainly the wings need a bit of work regarding wing flex behaviour and the leading edge textures are horrible. Nothing like Airbus leading edge slats.