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FSLTL: Static injection only from 2026/04/30 due to lost API

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Personally I don’t care if the traffic is realtime. If it matches historical routes and interacts with ATC, I am good. 

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  • Bob Scott
    Bob Scott

    OK, we're getting into unhappy territory here with accusations of theft being tossed about, so I'm locking this one down. If data is made available on a publicly-accessible website with no access

  • Bob Scott
    Bob Scott

    Actually, there is: PSXT (free) + RealTraffic (~$9/mo)

  • flightradar24
    flightradar24

    First and most important - Flightradar24 and FSLTL never had an agreement. FSLTL has been steeling Flightradar24 data for many years without permission which is breaking the terms and conditions.  

On 4/20/2026 at 5:15 AM, 0stones0 said:

I'm using it and seeing the liveries.

"Can MSFS 2024 AI traffic use FSLTL models? "

How ? I put the liveries in the community folder, but I am not seeing them .....

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6 minutes ago, willy647 said:

"Can MSFS 2024 AI traffic use FSLTL models? "

Highly unlikely.

MSFS

8 hours ago, flightradar24 said:
First and most important - Flightradar24 and FSLTL never had an agreement. FSLTL has been steeling Flightradar24 data for many years without permission which is breaking the terms and conditions.
Secondary, Flighradar24 never had a free API, so once again FSLTL has just been stealing data for years without paying.

If FSTL has been doing this "for many years", then why didn't you go after them sooner?

3 hours ago, flieger28 said:

@Watsi

You are saying that if you leave your house without locking it, and someone comes to sit in your living room while drinking your beer, that is okay....

Actually, if I would leave my house open, and someone sits on my couch and have some beers when I come back. I would appreciate that.
(omg, I'm so lonely) 😆


 

12 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Highly unlikely.

Live traffic will use any AI models you have installed if the proper lines are provided in the aircraft.cfg files

Been a thing since 2020.

Edited by Tuskin38

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6 hours ago, Watsi said:

So... if you are from FR24.

My impression (not in any way knowing what really happened), hearing FSLTL talking about FR24 in last few years, was that FSLTL had a kind of an agreement with FR24. Again, have no clue what really happened behind the scenes here. The agreement was made because they didn't use it make money out of it. That's what I did read on their discord. But I can be wrong. FSLTL made no money. No one had to pay anything. If there is a way available to get data from FR24, and everybody can access it, I wouldn't call this stealing. At least I would exclude FSLTL from the stealing part, cause no money. No selfish reasons. On the contrary: I asssume many FSLTL users are also FR24 clients. FSLTL does not provide the same product as FR24. Meaning, you won't use MSFS (with FSLTL injected traffic) to check the wordwide traffic and therefore don't use FR24. FSLTL was more of an advertising for FR24.

For all the rest, I totally understand FR24.

Like I wrote. FR24 never had an agreement with FSLTL. Never!
FSLTL has been stealing data for many, many years and they didn't even credit FR24, and now they blame FR24 when they stop stealing.

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14 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

If FSTL has been doing this "for many years", then why didn't you go after them sooner?

Because it has been for a "good thing". In 2026 the stealing has escalated and is now up to 25% of all FR24 traffic. At some point we can't support unlimited stealing. We have tried to get an agreement with FSTL for years but they are not cooperating. 

22 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Live traffic will use any AI models you have installed if the proper lines are provided in the aircraft.cfg files

Been a thing since 2020.

Without doing any modifications to .cfg files, will the FSLTL fleet work with default live traffic? In other words, will default msfs load the correct liveries and aircraft into the parking spots at the airport?

Thanks for clarifying.

MSFS

4 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Without doing any modifications to .cfg files, will the FSLTL fleet work with default live traffic? In other words, will default msfs load the correct liveries and aircraft into the parking spots at the airport?

Thanks for clarifying.

I don't use FSLTL's models anymore, but I'm sure I remember the default live traffic grabbing them.

If you want Live Traffic, there is only one way. RealTraffic and PSXT. You don’t need any ATC because what you have in the sim is controlled by real world ATC. As a bonus you also have a/c you never had live before, due to FR24 blocking private jets and other interesting a/c.

For my little extra immersion I use my old PRO ATC for some clearence and so. Works 10/10! And of course like all good things, it’s not free! 

7 minutes ago, KaptenEk said:

You don’t need any ATC because what you have in the sim is controlled by real world ATC.

Disagree completely.

Hearing other traffic over ATC is more immersive, and mostly stops from having to have aircraft deleted out of existence if they get in your way, as ATC can tell the aircraft to stop taxiing. 

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Remember: FR24 never ever ask any Airline or Airplane-owner to publish the positions of their planes. It is an invasion of personal data. So where is the right of FR24 to publish these private data and the right to forbid to use these data ???

ADS-B, Flarm and other Transponder data are for Air Traffic controll only. FR24 hack and stole these data !

Achim

BTW: there is also ADS-B Exchange. FSLTL should ask them.

7 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

That's very wrong.

Hearing other traffic over ATC is more immersive, and stops from having to have aircraft deleted out of existence if they get in your way.

I have used FSHud and SI and to be honest I don’t like them at all. If you done your flight planning right with validation the deleted a/c seldom accurs. For the ATC I use FS Chatter and real world ATC via ATCLive

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3 minutes ago, fl95 said:

So where is the right of FR24 to publish these private data and the right to forbid to use these data ???

ADS-B, Flarm and other Transponder data are for Air Traffic controll only. FR24 hack and stole these data !

ADS-B is not private data, I have no idea where you got that information. Who told you that ADS-B information is solely for ATC?! There's no hacking or stealing of data, this is publicly available information. 

FR24 charges money because they are an aggregator and store deltas of ADS-B data. You're free to create your own scraper that does this but there's a lot of technical hurdles to attain, store and serve this kind of data with a high level of throughput. That's what FR24 charges for. 

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