August 26Aug 26 Sadly, it looks like the FSW Lear 35 is their last jet. Apparently, the dev costs for a Hi Fi jet (even a “simple” one like the old Lear) are too high to get a decent financial return.I don’t have their experience/info, but some of that is simply going to come down to pricing: they priced their Lear quite high, relatively speaking. To their credit, they did recently lower the price, but that seems not to have moved the needle? Perhaps give it more time…I’d be curious to see how successful the FSR Phenom has been vs the FSW Lear.Also, no more Piston Singles for now, either (fine with me!).In happier news, it looks like the FSW team aren’t taking any breaks!All the current addons continue to receive updates AND upgrades to 2024 Native.In very good news for ME, they’re considering the Cessna 441 Conquest turboprop a bit further down the line. 😎Here’s the official updates from their Discord:# **Flysimware’s 2026 [New] Product Goals!** ✈️Along with our current product updates and native MSFS 2024 upgrades, we also have new aircraft development underway and are beginning to look toward what comes next.## **1. Piper PA-31 Navajo Chieftain – NEW PRODUCT**The **Piper Navajo Chieftain for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024** remains one of our major new-aircraft projects.Our current goal is to have the **beta available with a target near Christmas 2026 or early 2027. **.More information will be shared as development progresses.---## **What Comes Next?**Once our current projects are further along, we will begin selecting the next new Flysimware aircraft.Some of you may remember a recent poll regarding a very niche aircraft that a friend of ours is working to preserve.That poll was a little different from our normal aircraft voting. We already suspected there would not be enough commercial demand to justify developing that particular aircraft. We primarily wanted to show our friend and the people working to preserve the real aircraft what the actual flight-sim community response looked like.Our upcoming aircraft vote will be very different. 😎We are putting together a list of potential future Flysimware aircraft, including:* **Cessna 441 Conquest II*** **Cessna 402C Businessliner**, including the famous **Cape Air** livery* **Mitsubishi MU-2B-60*** Possibly **two additional aircraft**And we want your suggestions!There is one important requirement:### **We are looking for vintage analog twins.**For our next two or three new aircraft, Flysimware would like to concentrate heavily on **twin-engine aircraft with traditional analog cockpits**.There are already a huge number of single-engine GA aircraft available today, while many great twins have either never been developed for the modern simulators or have not received the treatment we think they deserve.Our twin-engine aircraft have also historically been some of the products our customers enjoy the most.So for the next few projects, **vintage analog twins may become something of a Flysimware specialty.**Have an aircraft you think belongs on the voting list?**Post your suggestions in Chat!** ✈️@everyone# **Flysimware’s 2026 Upgrade Goals!** ✈️Here is a look at our current **2026 upgrade and update goals** for existing Flysimware products.As always, release dates are estimates and can change depending on testing and development.## **1. Lancair Legacy – Final Development & Polish**The **Lancair Legacy for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024** has been released, but we do not consider development finished until all planned features are added, reported bugs are addressed, and the aircraft has had time to fully mature.Over approximately the **next 30 days**, we will continue polishing the Legacy, completing the remaining planned features, and addressing any reports that come in.Our goal is to reach the point where we can officially call development complete.## **2. Sierra C24R – Major MSFS 2020 Update**The **Sierra C24R for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020** has received a major update with numerous improvements, fixes, and new features.Some of the major additions include:* **Built-in hardware bindings*** New **fuel tank timer*** New **climate control system**We currently expect this update to be released in approximately **one week**.This update will also become the foundation for the upcoming native MSFS 2024 version.## **3. Learjet 35A Native 2024 – Major Update**The **Learjet 35A Native for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024** is also receiving a major update.Some of the new additions include:* New seat design* Fire extinguisher* Interactive pitot covers and engine covers that can be installed again while parked during your flight* **Built-in hardware bindings through the EFB*** Our new **TruSim Dynamic Dirt Effect System*** Dirt that dynamically builds up on the aircraft* Rain that naturally washes dirt away* Manual washing* Maintenance overrides that allow you to set the dirt level yourselfWe currently expect this update in approximately **1–2 weeks**.## **4. Sierra C24R Native MSFS 2024**Next will be a **fully native Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 version of the Sierra C24R**.Existing C24R customers will be offered a **$10 upgrade**.The native version will include all of the improvements being added to the MSFS 2020 version along with additional MSFS 2024 features, including:* Full pre-flight walk-around support* Interactive aircraft inspection* Our **TruSim Dynamic Dirt Effect System*** Native MSFS 2024 features and improvements## **5. Cessna 414AW Chancellor Native MSFS 2024**The **Cessna 414AW Chancellor** is also coming to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 as a fully native product.Existing C414 customers will also receive a **$10 upgrade option**.The native version is planned to include:* Full MSFS 2024 pre-flight walk-around support* TruSim Dynamic Dirt Effects* Native MSFS 2024 features* Additional fixes and improvements as neededThe C414 has been one of Flysimware’s most popular products, and we know many of you have been waiting for a native MSFS 2024 version.Our current target is approximately **one month**.If there is something in the existing C414 that you believe should be improved while we are working on the native version, **let us know!**Thank you, as always, for supporting Flysimware! ✈️@everyone
August 26Aug 26 I did quite enjoy the Learjet when it came out and have many hours in it. But I also wasn't a fan of the high upgrade price to the 2024 version so I never did upgrade it. Vote to fix transparent sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/
August 26Aug 26 I hope they may pick the Mitsubishi MU-2B-60 as their next project after the Chieftain. Alexander Colka
August 26Aug 26 15 minutes ago, Zangoose said:I did quite enjoy the Learjet when it came out and have many hours in it. But I also wasn't a fan of the high upgrade price to the 2024 version so I never did upgrade it.You've missed the best of it! 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
August 26Aug 26 Author 12 minutes ago, Zangoose said:I did quite enjoy the Learjet when it came out and have many hours in it. But I also wasn't a fan of the high upgrade price to the 2024 version so I never did upgrade it.I bit the bullet and did it. For me, it’s just too close to my ideal aircraft to let it go. ❤️In fairness, they did bundle all the previously extra-cost variants in, but I dislike that pricing “strateegery”. At least on the Lancair we’re getting substantial functional and perf diffs with all of those options. You may want to check it out again - the pricing has come down quite a bit. Perhaps that’ll tilt the decision for you. 🤙
August 26Aug 26 Author 18 minutes ago, alexcolka said:I hope they may pick the Mitsubishi MU-2B-60 as their next project after the Chieftain.That would be my preference, but it seems they don’t have access to an IRL example. Plus the iniBuilds example would probably be somewhat of a drag on sales…?
August 26Aug 26 1 minute ago, UrgentSiesta said:That would be my preference, but it seems they don’t have access to an IRL example.Plus the iniBuilds example would probably be somewhat of a drag on sales…?I don't know is possible, that IB rendition of the smaller brother of that plane was a letdown for me, I liked a lot the FSX version of the FSW MU-2 back on those days so I would expect something really good for 2024. Alexander Colka
August 27Aug 27 I just love their aircraft - and the Lear jet (2020) and Reborn 500 and looking forward to getting the Chieftain - I flew years agoI hope by the time that it comes out - they will have stopped the ridiculous idea of using MS Marketplace as their selling point - because somehow -I have not been able to buy their last 3 aircraft - due to a glitch on MS - which makes me wonder how many sales they have lost
August 27Aug 27 3 hours ago, jaytee73 said:I just love their aircraft - and the Lear jet (2020) and Reborn 500 and looking forward to getting the Chieftain - I flew years agoI hope by the time that it comes out - they will have stopped the ridiculous idea of using MS Marketplace as their selling point - because somehow -I have not been able to buy their last 3 aircraft - due to a glitch on MS - which makes me wonder how many sales they have lostThese are a FlightsimWARE aircraft, not FSReborn. FSW also sell through their own store (unlike FSR). And yeah, not buying anything FSR either, marketplace-only being a major factor.
August 27Aug 27 Whoops - sorry FSW - in which I include the 414 as my go to twinAt least you got the message re FSR and the marketplace - will they?Despite many a complaint on their Discord - they still insist they keep more money by using MS
August 27Aug 27 This news is fantastic for me (as someone who has retired from flying jets in MSFS2024). Single pistons are my weapon of choice but I also love a good twin.The most exciting part for me - don't know if you feel this as well - is that FSW have hugely elevated their game with the Legacy. In all areas but particularly functions, maintenance and wear/tear. So a Piper Navajo with the same attention to detail as the Legacy will be amazing.It's fantastic to see the most underrated GA aircraft in the sim, getting a big update: The FSW Sierra C24R. It is an incredibly immersive little complex single trainer and I have a lot of hours in it. Can't wait for the native 2024 version. And then there's the venerable C414 - the first piston twin I flew back when 2020 was released. It's still great today but desperately needs some additional FSW stock features, like headphone simulation.Even with the nasty KAP140 AP in the analogue Legacy, ( 😄 ) FSW are absolutely the good guys in my book and I will buy any new release / update they put out! Edited August 27Aug 27 by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently enjoying : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square Commander 114, Bonanzas, Barons, C208, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000 • Flying Fries Gabriel 160TR • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14 • Bagolu C172M & ICP Savannah. Currently flying IRL: Pipersport SportCruiser, Aeroprakt A32 Vixxen, Bristell Classic, Evektor SportStar, TL Sirius TL-3000, Rans S6LSTrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)
August 27Aug 27 Focusing on analog twins is far more in my wheelhouse than jets, so I'm certainly on board with their direction - and I'd add my vote for the MU-2. Would love to have a good one in '24. That said, I'm kinda surprised that their ROI is so poor on jets, especially when compared to turbine twins. I'm sure they have the numbers and I obviously don't, so not questioning them. Just mildly surprised.Scott
September 1Sep 1 Commercial Member Hey everyone, I just wanted to give a little more insight into why we’ve said we really don’t want to do more jets going forward, because I think the point may have gotten a little misunderstood.The issue was never that the Learjet didn’t sell. It absolutely did, and there are a lot of happy customers out there. Even when we first released the 2024 version at a higher price, it still did well. The problem is the amount of work that goes into building and maintaining a jet at the level we want to achieve in MSFS 2024.We’ve always tried to push our products further with each release, and with 2024 we’re taking advantage of as much of the new platform as we can. That means modern modular systems, the newer electrical and hydraulic systems, fluid dynamics, failures, advanced flight modeling, and all the other systems 2024 gives developers access to. A lot of aircraft on the market today still rely heavily on legacy-style systems and older logic, and there is nothing wrong with that approach, but that isn’t really how we like to build our aircraft.The Learjet is a good example of how far this can go. It has around 176 circuit breakers, and when we started building the electrical system and failure logic around that, the configuration became so large and complicated that we actually had to create our own graphical editors just to help generate the configuration files. What used to be a few hundred lines can become well over 900 lines just for one part of the aircraft configuration, before you even get into all the logic that actually makes the systems work.That complexity also doesn’t end when the aircraft releases. A product like the Lear is never really “finished.” Every simulator update can affect something, and even making what sounds like a small change can sometimes turn into a full day or two of tracing through modular files, systems, behaviors, configs, and testing. Then getting an update packaged, tested, and distributed across all the stores can take another couple of days.That is really where the problem is. It isn’t about whether people like the aircraft or whether it sold enough. It is about the amount of ongoing development and support time a complex jet consumes compared with what the market realistically expects to pay for it.Some developers are able to release an aircraft and largely move on from it. That just isn’t how we operate. We keep going back, fixing bugs, improving systems, adding features, and trying to keep our products working as the simulator changes. The Lear has required a huge amount of that attention, and it has also slowed down some of our other aircraft getting moved over to 2024.So going forward, we want to focus on aircraft that still let us build the kind of detailed systems and realism we enjoy, but without the enormous overhead that comes with a complex jet. We’re not planning to move toward single-engine piston aircraft either, because historically that hasn’t been the strongest market for us. We want to get back to the kinds of aircraft we know are popular, that we’re good at developing, and where we can still push the simulator without one product consuming nearly all of our development time.The Learjet sold well. That was never the problem. The problem is that building and maintaining a jet like this at the level we want to achieve in MSFS 2024 is simply an enormous commitment, and we’d rather put that time into producing more aircraft for everyone instead of spending years continually maintaining one extremely complex product.
September 1Sep 1 A native MSFS2024 Chancellor ? I'll happily pay for that upgrade! It's been one of my favourite aircraft over the years. Vintage analogue twins may become something of a Flysimware specialty ? That sounds intriguing, to say the least. I'm not really up on vintage GA twins, but whatever comes along will be of the highest quality, no doubt. All the best with it. Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting. https://rationalwiki.org
September 1Sep 1 5 hours ago, Flysimware said:Hey everyone, I just wanted to give a little more insight into why we’ve said we really don’t want to do more jets going forward, because I think the point may have gotten a little misunderstood.Mark, genuinely FSW are a role model for quality, innovation, listening to the customer and ongoing updates and support. The feature set in the Legacy is perhaps one of the widest of any piston single in the sim. It's hard to fathom the amount of work that must have gone into those dozens of different aspects of operation, maintenance and failures in the EFB. For those that don't own the product; FSW even developed a full custom bindings capability, integrated into the Legacy's EFB, to satisfy hardware and advanced keyboard users. I don't think this has been done by anyone else in MSFS. The Legacy's rapid development and progression, addition of new features and fine tuning of existing aspects, since release, is the perfect illustration of that appetite for innovation that FSW have.I will buy anything that FSW develop and release on day 1, without hesitation. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently enjoying : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square Commander 114, Bonanzas, Barons, C208, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000 • Flying Fries Gabriel 160TR • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14 • Bagolu C172M & ICP Savannah. Currently flying IRL: Pipersport SportCruiser, Aeroprakt A32 Vixxen, Bristell Classic, Evektor SportStar, TL Sirius TL-3000, Rans S6LSTrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)
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